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Poll: KudoZ questions allow just words - what about putting images as well?
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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "KudoZ questions allow just words - what about putting images as well?".

This poll was originally submitted by Fabio Descalzi Sgarbi

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TRANZsmart  Identity Verified
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Images in Kudoz Oct 30, 2006

What would be the point of allowing images as well... and problems with translation text from an image can quite simply be typed to get a response... its doubtful that the image could contribute much important context to help with translation.

The site is already slow enough...NO IMAGES!


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Fabio Descalzi  Identity Verified
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An image can be worth a thousand words... Oct 30, 2006

... but words are our daily bread.
So images should help us explain what we cannot tell in words - but the solution will always be a word or an expression.
It could be terrible if we start answering images with more images. This would de-naturalize the essence of this workplace, and the essence of translation itself.
But on the other hand, sometimes we have a digital picture of the "thing" we are trying to explain. For instance: in architecture it would be very difficult to describe in detail a museum by Frank Gehry - you necessarily need the image to get the feeling. Well, Frank Gehry is very famous, so "his" images are available online and all you need is to write the adequate website address.
Not so easy with "the picture from my grandma's house on the far-away countryside"... that's what pictures are for after all!


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Petja Mladenova
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what for? Oct 30, 2006

We could always link to a good picture of the thing we mean. There are pictures of everything and anything in Internet. As for "the picture from my grandma's house on the far-away countryside", we could link to it in our yahoo photos or some other of the many sites that let us upload images. No need to overload proz.com more than it already is.

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Marie-Hélène Hayles  Identity Verified
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could be useful Oct 30, 2006

I don't particularly care either way, but I could see it might be useful in translating patents, for example, where there are no images on the internet because you're describing a new product. (Of course, most of the time they don't actually give you the figures anyway - that would be too easy, wouldn't it!)

It would also be very useful if you're trying to decipher someone's handwriting and you could just put the appropriate bit in your Kudoz question. That would be the main application from my point of view.


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CathyFS  Identity Verified
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Wouldn't that slow down the site even more for dial-up users? Oct 30, 2006

I don't really mind as I have a fast connection, but the site is already slow enough and for people living in areas not serviced by broadband or satellite - and who are therefore connecting to the Internet using dial-up - I think the Proz.com site could become excessively slow. Maybe find a way of speeding up the site a bit first before allowing images ......

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Yaotl Altan  Identity Verified
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Definitely Oct 30, 2006

Yes, it would definitely be useful. But the bandwidth is an important point, so we must consider certain requirement in order not to saturate the site with images

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Patricia Rosas  Identity Verified
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definitely... Oct 30, 2006

I've been translating archaeology texts discussing the details of the buildings and pottery characteristics.

At times, the authors were not clear (the problems ranged from using non-existent words through misspellings to arcane language). At other times, I just couldn't "see clearly" what was being discussed (I'm not very visually oriented).

When I posted questions, it would have helped me immensely to be able to attach a photo of the object under discussion. And this would have saved the time of those kind people who tried to answer but who also couldn't visualize what the phrase in the KudoZ question was describing.


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M. Anna Kańduła  Identity Verified
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Image could have a point Oct 30, 2006

Henry Barfoot-Saunt wrote:

What would be the point of allowing images as well... and problems with translation text from an image can quite simply be typed to get a response... its doubtful that the image could contribute much important context to help with translation.

An image could explain better than thousand words. Sometimes one can have a scheme, knows what are those things on the scheme, and what they do, but doesn't know / can't recall a name of one of them. Pointing right thing on a image would be much better, than describing it.

Anni


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ViktoriaG  Identity Verified
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Great idea Oct 30, 2006

Especially for the field of engineering, this could be very useful. However, it is true that it could slow down the site. I think this could be remedied by adding a small icon in the questions list next to questions containing images to let people know that an image will be displayed - this way, people with slower connections will be able to stay away from those questions. I don't think they would - but they'd have a choice, which is an approach that should be adopted in all areas of the site.

I have posted a question a long time ago that nobody understood because I couldn't upload an image - which I did have. In that particular case, I would have loved to have the ability to upload an image. If it can be done in other areas of the site, why not in KudoZ? Of course, we would have to avoid abuse, so I would limit this to certain types of questions. For example, non-pro questions wouldn't be allowed to post images.

I would welcome this possibility, particularly for engineering questions.


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Thomas Pfann  Identity Verified
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Not really necessary, is it? Oct 30, 2006

It might be helpful from time to time (although I can't really think of a recent case where I would have found an image useful), but I wouldn't want to see the site slow down because of that. And once there is the option to add images, it would surely be over-used and people would start adding images to the simplest of questions - including 'cute little pics of cute little animals' to show one's gratitude for particularly helpful answers.

We're all linguists and wordsmiths, words are our daily bread - so surely we all should be able to describe any picture in words where necessary.

And if all fails it's always possible to upload a picture somewhere else (or find a similar picture on the web) and post a link to it with your KudoZ question.


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Özden Arıkan  Identity Verified
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Could be useful Oct 30, 2006

But I would prefer this option be reserved for registered users only.

[Edited at 2006-10-31 00:28]


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Copyrights Oct 30, 2006

It sounds tempting but I'd rather say "no". In general, photos have copyrights and I don't think that we are allowed to publish images as we please...

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neilmac  Identity Verified
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Totally agree Oct 30, 2006

Henry Barfoot-Saunt wrote:

The site is already slow enough...NO IMAGES!


Not all of us have the luxury of a broadband connection (for whatever reason).


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Andrea Riffo  Identity Verified
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Bandwith Oct 30, 2006

Though I think that sometimes words escape us or, like Patricia said, that some of us are not visual people (I have a very hard time picturing things), I'm with Thomas on this one.

We can use plenty of other free sites that allow us to upload pictures/files and link, so that Proz.com members and/or users don't suffer because of slow connections, like Yaotl, Viktoria, et al pointed out..

Andrea


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