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Poll: My professional philosophy is:
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Eloïse Notet  Identity Verified
France
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Other Oct 7, 2007

I work to live but I love my work!

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Marcin Wierzbicki  Identity Verified
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live to work! :) Oct 7, 2007

I chose the 'live to work' option, because, to tell the truth, I thought nobody would choose it and my vote would be the only one
To anyone taking this poll seriously - count my vote for the opposite option


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Beatriz Galiano
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Work to live Oct 7, 2007

Although there have been times when I liked my job so much that if asked this question, I would have answered I live to work.

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Heidi C  Identity Verified
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Other Oct 7, 2007

Work is part of my life, and I love my work.

But this does not mean my work is not a business: the fact that I love what I do, am good at it, it comes "easily" to me, and I would be willing to pay to be able to do it does not mean that I will sell myself short and not expect to be paid a decent professional rate!!!



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John Cutler  Identity Verified
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Who am I kidding? Oct 7, 2007

I would say I only work to live. After all, there are always lots of bills to pay.

When I find myself working 6 or 7 days a week, every week though, I can't help but think that maybe I'm only fooling myself. Perhaps, it's the other way around...


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Tomás Cano Binder, CT  Identity Verified
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I don't get it. Oct 7, 2007

(Voted Other) Honestly buddies, I never understood this "work to live, live to work" thing.

To me it is just one more puzzle each of us can assign a different meaning to. Each of us can find his/her own ratio of work and life so that none of us is allowed to say that we "live to work". We all of course "work to live", don't we? A person who works 4 hours a day and believes it's enough thinks it's "working for living". But people who work 70, 80, 90 or more hours a week believe that it is also "working for living".

After hearing the sentence time and time again for decades (who started it in the first place? We should sue him/her for making us waste our time!), who would be so daring to say he/she lives to work?

In my humble opinion, this question is probably as useless as asking things like:
a) Do you believe in social justice? Yes / No
b) Do you agree with paying reasonable taxes to support universal education? Yes / No
c) Do you agree with adequate environmental measures to avoid global climate disasters? Yes / No

In our society you can't simply say "No" to any of these, the same way you cannot say happily you "live to work".

If you say "Yes" to any of the above, you are cheerfully accepted as a sensible person in all circles. If you say "No", you have to explain your definition of "social justice", "reasonable taxes" and "adequate environmental measures" for hours on end. And my experience shows that it will be a waste of time...


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xxxLia Fail  Identity Verified
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hear hear! Oct 7, 2007

Tomás Cano Binder wrote:

In my humble opinion, this question is probably as useless as asking things like:
a) Do you believe in social justice? Yes / No etc



My first thought: what a pointlessly dichotomous/binary question, life just isn't that simple.

Thanks God for Tomás and coherent arguments:-)

If we don't have work to shape our days we have shapeless days and so need to find something else to "shape" our days ...and how many of us have that luxury. I've always thought about lady Di and other celebrities that spend their days "doing good" that they have the luxury of deciding that their days will be shaped by doing good, since they don't need money - which most ordinary mortals do. They "work" because they are like most of us, work shapes our days, under whatever disguise.

What's more: who's going to say they "work to live" given its connotations in contrast to "live to work". I do neither, work is a very important part of ME (my life), to the point where, in recent months, because of certain issues that are entirely work-related, I'm down in the dumps. Totally work-related, but they are spilling over into ME (my life).

If one hates one's job, one is miserable, especially if they see their work, doing it well, and feeling fulfilled, as a key element of life. I do, yet I don't say I work to live or live to work. Being fulfilled professionally is to me, maybe as essential as breathing. Do I breathe to live or do I live to breathe?


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Rocio Barrientos  Identity Verified
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Ditto Oct 8, 2007

Enotet wrote:

I work to live but I love my work!


Very well said Enoted

I like to say that I translate because I love my family & I do it with love (more than the money, it is a passion to deliver my best service, or as Enotet wrote “I love my work!”)

My personal motto that keeps me going and sets a north for me is:
"translate for love & with love”


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Özden Arıkan  Identity Verified
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On the contrary, great poll! Oct 8, 2007

Isn't it these pointlessly dichotomous questions that allow us add our own buts, but thens, ifs, ands... and so on(s) to expand on our attitudes, approaches, and beliefs, and express ourselves in full? Hence have a real discussion? Did you notice that with polls that are very well structured, with all possible situations and options thought out, we do not have such lively ones?



Besides this digression, which ends here, I generally agree with Lia's point of view, though. Work is an integral part of our lives, which adds meaning and purpose to it. And we do need meaning and purpose in our lives, because we know that we will die - the only species blessed with this horrible knowledge, which in turn is the source of all we add to the Life itself. So, work is not only to live, but to defy death and to leave something for the afterwards or to leave an imprint as we pass by But then, once you have that meaning and purpose in sight, you stick to it and of course you live to work, too. How can you separate the two?


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tontoon
Turkey
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I work for a life without work Oct 8, 2007

I have a simple life. Sometimes I work very hard for like 2-3 months, so I can live with that money for another 3-4 months without working again. Thats why I work.

[Bearbeitet am 2007-10-08 08:57]


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Henrik Pipoyan  Identity Verified
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I live and work Oct 8, 2007

That simple:)

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Noni Gilbert
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Changing priorities Oct 8, 2007

I lived to work for many years. Now I have children and I work to live. Don't suppose I'm alone on this one!

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