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Suggestion: 24 hours to elapse prior to awarding
Thread poster: xxxTanuki
xxxTanuki
Japanese to Italian
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Aug 4, 2002

In order to improve the quality of the answers, as well as the significance of the overall scorings, a small note could be added, suggesting Askers to let elapse at least 24 hours from posting prior to assigning Kudoz.



Ideally, this (hinted) time interval might allow:



- more satisfactory answers (in terms of accuracy, collection of documentary evidence, reflection, analysis, exchange of information/opinions, etc.).



- the intervention of a higher number of translators (including those temporarily elsewhere or at rest).



- a higher intrinsic value of the Kudoz assigned, and also (hopefully) a higher quality of the Asker\'s final translation.





IMHO, such a note would be best expressed as a hint - (i.e. as a non-mandatory suggestion).





Cheers,



Tanuki

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Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:19
Member (2004)
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agree 100% Aug 4, 2002

no need to close the question after 10 minutes, even if you think the answers given fit well within the contest. The point of Kudoz, in my modest opinion, is to gather all the possible information before choosing the most suitable (or closest) answer.



G


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Jack Doughty  Identity Verified
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Agree in principle, but not as long as 24 hours Aug 4, 2002

I believe any asker looking up information or FAQs will find advice along these lines there, but since many don\'t look there, a reminder on the page would be a good thing.

But most askers are working to a deadline and want to get the job wrapped up and off to the customer, usually in a lot less than 24 hours. I allow at least two hours myself, so I would go for that, but if the consensus is for a longer period I would go along with it. But there is not much satisfaction in asking a question, having to get the job off with your own best guess entered, and then finding the correct answer in KudoZ the next day.


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Gayle Wallimann  Identity Verified
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French to English
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Good idea Aug 4, 2002

This sounds good to me. It\'s true that many proz are sleeping while others are working...

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Nikita Kobrin  Identity Verified
Lithuania
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Re: 24 period before KudoZ points can be awarded Aug 4, 2002

It\'s in my best intersts and I always do it, sometimes even more than 24 hours.



Nikita


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Gilda Manara  Identity Verified
Italy
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a very good idea! Aug 4, 2002

even if some askers might need an urgent answer, due to deadlines of delivery, waiting before closing the answer will allow to receive further comments and suggestions that might be useful for future work, and the answerers will have more time for researches and reasoning...



Gilda


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Trudy Peters  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 01:19
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Agree 100% Aug 4, 2002

Henry, can you add a note to that effect?



Trudy





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Magda Dziadosz  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 07:19
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1000% agree Aug 4, 2002

It is so annoying when you answer and then find the question is already closed - not even 10 minutes after it was posted! And this happens quite frequently. However, it seems to be a certain pattern: I noticed that the same people routinely close their questions after the first answer comes. It would be so good to give them a hint that the first answer is not always the best one!



Magda



PS And this would also take into account different time zones we live in.

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Adriana Esposito  Identity Verified
Italy
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24 hours grants the correct (best?) translation in the glossaries Aug 4, 2002

And waiting 24 hours you can make sure the entry in the glossary is the best one, for future references...

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Derek Smith  Identity Verified
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2-year delay Aug 4, 2002

Well everybody seems to agree here so I suppose the motion is passed, although surely in some cases a lightning five-minute digital embrace could be wholly satisfactory for both partners and too quick to attract general attention.

Nonetheless, I was surprised to answer a Kudos question a couple of days ago two years after the date of asking (http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=22039&id=25970), and then find that I have been awarded points within the space of a few minutes. Too fast?

Respect General and Marshal

Derek


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
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24 hours is probably too long Aug 4, 2002

...some people might simply forget to grade their questions. This issue has been discussed quite a few times before - I\'d agree that a note recommending to wait is a good idea.

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aivars  Identity Verified
Argentina
Local time: 02:19
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another really bad idea Aug 5, 2002

A good answer could just be given in seconds. I don´t see why you want to make things slower, while everything moves faster (deadlines, machines, services, etc.).

Speed is a component in the quality formula.

Everybody is free to wait for 24 hs. or more to reward if that´s his or her choice.

But please, don´t impose your slow pace on others


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Antonella Andreella  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 07:19
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Hi all Aug 5, 2002

I don\'t agree!

I agree with Jack, Derek and Ralf... and try to make life easier, once the asker is satisfied with an answer, be it after 4 minutes or four hours or four days... where is the problem?



Have fun



Cheers



)))



Antonella


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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The problem is jumping too quickly - often for the wrong answer Aug 5, 2002

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On 2002-08-05 08:15, Andreella wrote:

I don\'t agree!

I agree with Jack, Derek and Ralf... and try to make life easier, once the asker is satisfied with an answer, be it after 4 minutes or four hours or four days... where is the problem?



The problem is that quite often askers \"jump\" and grade the first answer that looks reasonable. It might be - but then it could also be someone\'s \"answer\" sourced from LEO or found on the basis of x Google hits. As it happens, the \"case is closed\" while other members are still researching. A note of caution to \"aivars\" - slow pace might mean in-depth research: I sometimes work on an answer for 15+ minutes.



Nobody says that you should move a deadline just because you\'re waiting for someone else to respond, and sometimes you can see after 3 to 4 hours that there\'s no additional value created. But don\'t forget that this site operates on a 24-hour basis - and those on the other side of the planet might, in fact, have valuable information. Why waste this opportunity?

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Antonella Andreella  Identity Verified
Italy
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On this I agree with you Aug 5, 2002

Why waste this opportunity?

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nevertheless this decision should be taken by the asker and not \'imposed\' by the site.



Pros and Cons: sometimes people fighting for points and offering \'so-called different solutions\' just make it more difficult for the asker to concentrate on really good answers. It depends on the kind of term/word.



Cheers





Antonella


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