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technical advice on translating PDF file
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Cristiana Coblis  Identity Verified
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Nov 3, 2002

I have received an inquiry from a client for a rather large project that must be translated in PDF and delivered in PDF.

How can this be done? I have never done translation directly on PDF files and I would like some advice on what kind of program to use for this kind of translation.

TIA


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JCEC  Identity Verified
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Translating PDF files Nov 3, 2002

To translate PDF files, you need to purchase the full version of Adobe Acrobat (different from Acrobat Reader) or Adobe Exchange.



But be cautious, translating in PDF format take a while getting used to and can be somewhat time-consuming like translating PowerPoint presentations.





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Clarisa Moraña  Identity Verified
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You can´t Nov 3, 2002

Unless you have Adobe Acrobat (not Acrobat Reader), and it has plenty of limitations as a PDF file is like a brochure. You shoud use the original file that generated that PDF (Quark, FrameMaker, PageMaker).



Sure, you could extract the text and translate it in word, but you won\'t be able to paste it again on the PDF file.



Why don\'t you a search in this site using the keyword PDF? There is plenty of information about the subject.

Try, for instance, http://www.proz.com/?sp=bb/viewtopic&post=32422#32422



Regards,

Clarisa Moraña


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Elvira Stoianov  Identity Verified
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You can make the translation in Word, and then create a PDF file with Adobe Acrobat Nov 3, 2002

If you have Adobe Acrobat, you have an option in Word to write your document into a PDF file. However, as you know, WOrd files are limited in terms of graphics. If your PDF is only text, then it\'s no problem. But you can only do this with Adobe Acrobat (which unlike Acrobat Reader requires a licence)

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Cristiana Coblis  Identity Verified
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Thank you Nov 3, 2002

Thank you all for the advice.

Cristina


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LogiCaf  Identity Verified
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Touch-up tool Nov 3, 2002

Tu peux faire la traduction directement dans le document PDF: Clique sur le touch-up tool (Dans la barre d\'outils à gauche, c\'est l\'outil avec un T), puis ensuite clique sur une ligne de ton texte à traduire.

Tu peux suivre ces instructions en cliquand sur Help et en choisissant \"Editing PDF documents\".

Je suis à faire une traduc PDF aussi, et j\'ai trouvé que c\'était la meilleure façon de faire, puisque la mise en page reste intacte.

Stéf

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Nathalie M. Girard, ALHC  Identity Verified
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The touch-up tool will only work when... Nov 3, 2002

.... you have a PDF which is a text + graphics file.



If the PDF file is simply made up of *images*, i.e. that the original pages were scanned to create the PDF file, then you do not have access to the *T* (touch-up tool) function because the entire page is just one big image.



I hope this clarifies things a little.



Nathalie


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Endre Both  Identity Verified
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Further difficulties Nov 3, 2002

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On 2002-11-03 18:22, CTIS wrote:

The touch-up tool will only work when you have a PDF which is a text + graphics file.





Besides, when using the touch-up tool in a PDF file, every line is self-contained, like a text box in Word, so forget about automatic line wrapping. If you have a sentence that runs over ten lines, first you have to translate the sentence (on a piece of paper, in a different file, wherever, but NOT in Acrobat) and then feed it line by line into the PDF file. Obviously, this is neither very quick nor very satisfying, and if your translation gets longer than the source, you run into trouble.



There are also some commercial programs like Gemini Solo which try to extract PDF files into Word, with more or less success. See e.g.:



www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolinfo_all.asp





All in all, PDFs are a major pain and should be priced accordingly.

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Nathalie M. Girard, ALHC  Identity Verified
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I agree Endre! Nov 3, 2002

PDFs are a special kind of *animal* and translating from those should be priced accordingly.



I just wish clients would understand the extra amount of work that these files require!



Bonne soirée!

Nathalie


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Nicolas Rick
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Create PDF without Acrobat Nov 3, 2002

You can also create pdf file with other tools and without Acrobat : see at http://sebsauvage.net

Quite something to implement but when it is done works perfectly !



Good luck !


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