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Kevin Pfeiffer  Identity Verified
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Jun 18, 2007

From Henry's half-time report : "(3) Announcing ProZ.com trainings"

Is this British English? Does one have "trainings" in the UK? I guess we already have "mailings" and "briefings", so why not a little more?

-Kevin (my last messaging for today)


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William [Bill] Gray  Identity Verified
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Well.... Jun 18, 2007

I think it will certainly come, if it is not already approved.

But the way around it could always be to talk about "training sessions" or "days", or "events" even.



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Lesley Clayton
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It hurt my brain when I first saw it ... Jun 18, 2007

... when I first saw it on the homepage. But then I thought the text space was probably too limited to put another word, like 'training sessions', and thought that was the reason for this oddity.

Haven't had time yet to read Henry's email, but surely he can't be short of space there.


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Tim Drayton  Identity Verified
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I have encountered this Jun 18, 2007

I have encountered the use of 'training' as a countable noun in company news letters and reports.

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Maria Karra  Identity Verified
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space Jun 18, 2007

Lesley Clayton wrote:
It hurt my brain when I first saw it ...
... when I first saw it on the homepage. But then I thought the text space was probably too limited to put another word, like 'training sessions', and thought that was the reason for this oddity.


It hurt my brain too. It still does; I can't get used to it. If there's not enough space, perhaps we could use the word "courses". Or create more space!
Maria


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Can Altinbay  Identity Verified
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But wait... Jun 18, 2007

Why not just "training"?

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Henry Hinds  Identity Verified
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Trainings Jun 18, 2007

Yes, "trainings" appears to be used all over in the US, to us it seems quite natural. Of course not everything we create over here is so great, but...

...you must also realize that there are more of us, and there is more than one Henry, too!

I know this Henry is always having trouble trying to fathom British English and Peninsular Spanish, so that ocean definitely does mark a certain linguistic divide.


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Jenny Forbes  Identity Verified
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5 cm a year Jun 18, 2007

Henry Hinds wrote:

Yes, "trainings" appears to be used all over in the US, to us it seems quite natural. Of course not everything we create over here is so great, but...

...you must also realize that there are more of us, and there is more than one Henry, too!

I know this Henry is always having trouble trying to fathom British English and Peninsular Spanish, so that ocean definitely does mark a certain linguistic divide.


Yes, Henries all, and the divide is growing greater at the rate of about 5 cm a year - spreading from the mid-Atlantic ridge - apparently the same rate at which one's finger nails grow.
Incidentally, I think it should be "training courses" too.
Regards,
Jenny.


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Kevin Pfeiffer  Identity Verified
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"Use of "training" as countable noun?" Jun 18, 2007

Henry Hinds wrote:
Yes, "trainings" appears to be used all over in the US, to us it seems quite natural. Of course not everything we create over here is so great, but...


I used to be a native English speaker of the US kind...

To my dated ear (only gone 7 years) it sounds like corporate Human Resources jargon.


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Terry Gilman  Identity Verified
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trainings / learnings? Jun 18, 2007

Thank you for asking. Should this be a mono-English Kudoz?

As it happens, I also still go for training or training programs/courses (etc.) as the standard expression that does not draw attention to itself, but "learnings" seems to be spreading, too, so are expats in Germany behind the times? Or are we still putting the reader first?

If we have insights, why not learnings?

For other nouns, what about saving/savings, cost/costs, and "spend"?

As for verbs, do people still get upset about being "copied"?

As someone mentioned, all these words, to me, signal that you are being addressed by someone who wants your money or your life (motivation).

Best regardz
Terry


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Can Altinbay  Identity Verified
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I'm thinking, I'm thinking Jun 18, 2007

Terry Gilman wrote:


As someone mentioned, all these words, to me, signal that you are being addressed by someone who wants your money or your life (motivation).

Best regardz
Terry


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