Tomás Cano Binder, CT Spain Local time: 06:48 Member (2005) English to Spanish + ...
Chinese Finnish
Oct 2, 2011
Hannele Marttila wrote:
Rates are not everything, we all know that, and neither should they be. Quality, experience, delivery times etc play a big part, as does the client’s and the translator’s locality. I, as a UK based Fin/Eng translator find that some rates from say Asia are well below of what I can accept and often don’t even bid, but when I bid for my specialism with obvious credentials I think I would like to know the final bid price.
I think that by all means these Asian companies should hire Chinese translators that do Finnish. That will do wonders for them!
[Edited at 2011-10-02 14:10 GMT]
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Reopening this thread: Hannele, post a suggestion to Proz management
Jan 30
Hannele Marttila wrote:
Rates are not everything, we all know that, and neither should they be. Quality, experience, delivery times etc play a big part, as does the client’s and the translator’s locality. I, as a UK based Fin/Eng translator find that some rates from say Asia are well below of what I can accept and often don’t even bid, but when I bid for my specialism with obvious credentials I think I would like to know the final bid price.
As far as I have been able to see, jobs advertised on Proz are auctioned (price plays the central role). It would therefore only be fair to members of the site to enable them to see both the lowest and the highest offers, and the "final price" selected by the job provider.
I believe paying members should simply ask for this feature to be introduced.
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Siegfried Armbruster Germany Local time: 06:48 Member (2004) English to German + ...
Sorry, this is confidential information
Jan 30
As an outsourcer, I would not post any jobs here, if the result would be published. In my opinion it is confidential information that is only relevant to me (the outsourcer) and the person who accepted the job.
I would however have no problem if Proz aggregated the information on a quaterly basis by language pair and specialty.
How would you react if outsourcers wanted to know all rates translators accept from customers?
You know, this would allow us, the "bad agencies" to always offer you the rate you might just accept
[Edited at 2012-01-30 17:25 GMT]
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gad United States Local time: 00:48 Member French to English
Don't change it
Jan 30
János Untener wrote:
If it ain't broke don't fix it
I would not be in favor of changing this - apparently it was already changed to seal the bids, so it should just be left alone.
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Eleftherios Kritikakis United States Local time: 23:48 Member (2003) Greek to English + ...
Dialogue
Jan 30
- So why did you, Mr. Project Manager, give that project to the other guy?
- Because he was cheaper than you by 1 cent per word and budget was tight.
- Why didn't you ask me first? For the specific project, I would have given you 2 cents discount, this way, you would have earned an additional 10%.
- Darn, I didn't know that.
- That's because you didn't ask - you didn't give me the chance and the opportunity to compete. By keeping it a secret, you distorted the market, and you lost. So, let's leave the Soviet Translation Industry once and for all and go back to America where you give me the chance, at least, to compete.
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Christine Andersen Denmark Local time: 06:48 Member (2003) Danish to English + ...
Coming in from another angle...
Jan 30
The jobs actually posted on this site are only a small proportion of the jobs that are negotiated through the site, direct from outsourcer to translator.
These are the ones where they select a handful of tranlsators or just one from the directory, and mail him/her/them about the job and ask for a quote.
No one would ever see the information or rates about those, and you cannot force outsourcers to give that kind of information. They would quite rightly say it was nobody else's business.
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