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Thread poster: Diarmuid Kennan

Diarmuid Kennan  Identity Verified
Ireland
Local time: 05:23
Member (2006)
Danish to English
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Feb 2, 2009

I was recently contacted by an outsoucer to do some work. Everything about him was suspicious.
Hotmail address, amateurish homepage with no address or phone number. When I asked, he provided me with an address in India (not his, I checked), a phone number in Vietnam (not his, I checked) and a business registration no. from Italy (not his, I checked). His IP number showed that he was actually in India though.

Then I found another translator's posting here in the forum warning about him (although it had been edited by Proz, the original entry with the guy's name still appeared in Google, so I was in no doubt it was the same guy).

When I challenged him, he told me to go to hell.

Finally, I contacted some colleagues and found out that he had also been trying to convince them to work. They were also suspicious even before I contacted them. The guy is not very bright, but he is persistent.

Anyway, my point is, I set up a blueboard reference to him, but because I hadn't worked for him, I wasn't allowed to make a comment.

Now today, I see that someone else has added a comment on the blueboard entry I set up:

" Nearly $800. No reply to my payment request, no compliant about my translation, I even did editing for him after delivery. NO Payment at all!"

If I'd been allowed to make an entry, I might have saved my unfortunate colleague a lot of work and aggravation.

[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2009-02-04 08:46 GMT]


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 06:23
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Contact a Jobs/BB moderator and/or ProZ.com staff Feb 3, 2009

Hi Diarmuid,
What I would suggest in such a case is to contact a Jobs/Blue Board moderator, and/or to submit a Support Request to ProZ.com staff.

Did you notice the public note posted by moderators very shortly after the BB record was created?

Best regards,
Ralf


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Diarmuid Kennan  Identity Verified
Ireland
Local time: 05:23
Member (2006)
Danish to English
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Thanks Feb 3, 2009

Thanks Ralf...Good idea, I'll do that in future.

I haven't seen any public note posted by the moderators.

Diarmuid


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 06:23
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Public note posted on the Blue Board record Feb 3, 2009

Hi again,

I haven't seen any public note posted by the moderators.

It is a note posted by a fellow Jobs moderator indicating (and pointing out) a lack of contact details.

Best regards,
Ralf


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Laurent KRAULAND  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 06:23
French to German
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Good to know! Feb 3, 2009

Thanks for this interesting discussion, gentlemen.

I too was in the case of having to say something about an outsourcer without actually having worked for them.

Laurent K.


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Lesley Clarke  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 23:23
Spanish to English
Just an idea but... Feb 3, 2009

Another translator once told me that he contacted Interpol about a fraudulent agency and got very good results.

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Alexandra Goldburt
Local time: 21:23
English to Russian
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I think we should be allowed to post on the Blue Board... Feb 4, 2009

...even if we haven't actually worked for a particular outsourcer.

Unethical behavior can and does occur prior to the point of hiring, and I think it is good to warn others about it.

Just my opinion.


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Vito Smolej
Germany
Local time: 06:23
Member (2004)
English to Slovenian
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Let's not fix what's not broken ... Feb 4, 2009

Alexandra Goldburt wrote:

...even if we haven't actually worked for a particular outsourcer.

Unethical behavior can and does occur prior to the point of hiring, and I think it is good to warn others about it.

Just my opinion.

Changing the rules (BB or any other kind) can have a lot of unexpected side effects. I think Ralf's suggestion is to be followed. And I liked the Interpol suggestion (g).

Regards

Vito


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