Blue board entries on fraudulent outsourcers Thread poster: Diarmuid Kennan
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Diarmuid Kennan
Ireland
Local time: 18:04
Member (2006)
Danish to English
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I was recently contacted by an outsoucer to do some work. Everything about him was suspicious.
Hotmail address, amateurish homepage with no address or phone number. When I asked, he provided me with an address in India (not his, I checked), a phone number in Vietnam (not his, I checked) and a business registration no. from Italy (not his, I checked). His IP number showed that he was actually in India though.
Then I found another translator's posting here in the forum warning ... See more I was recently contacted by an outsoucer to do some work. Everything about him was suspicious.
Hotmail address, amateurish homepage with no address or phone number. When I asked, he provided me with an address in India (not his, I checked), a phone number in Vietnam (not his, I checked) and a business registration no. from Italy (not his, I checked). His IP number showed that he was actually in India though.
Then I found another translator's posting here in the forum warning about him (although it had been edited by Proz, the original entry with the guy's name still appeared in Google, so I was in no doubt it was the same guy).
When I challenged him, he told me to go to hell.
Finally, I contacted some colleagues and found out that he had also been trying to convince them to work. They were also suspicious even before I contacted them. The guy is not very bright, but he is persistent.
Anyway, my point is, I set up a blueboard reference to him, but because I hadn't worked for him, I wasn't allowed to make a comment.
Now today, I see that someone else has added a comment on the blueboard entry I set up:
" Nearly $800. No reply to my payment request, no compliant about my translation, I even did editing for him after delivery. NO Payment at all!"
If I'd been allowed to make an entry, I might have saved my unfortunate colleague a lot of work and aggravation.
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Ralf Lemster 
Germany
Local time: 19:04
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| Contact a Jobs/BB moderator and/or ProZ.com staff | Feb 3, 2009 |
Hi Diarmuid,
What I would suggest in such a case is to contact a Jobs/Blue Board moderator, and/or to submit a Support Request to ProZ.com staff.
Did you notice the public note posted by moderators very shortly after the BB record was created?
Best regards,
Ralf
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Diarmuid Kennan
Ireland
Local time: 18:04
Member (2006)
Danish to English
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TOPIC STARTER
Thanks Ralf...Good idea, I'll do that in future.
I haven't seen any public note posted by the moderators.
Diarmuid
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Ralf Lemster
Germany
Local time: 19:04
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| Public note posted on the Blue Board record | Feb 3, 2009 |
Hi again,
I haven't seen any public note posted by the moderators.
It is a note posted by a fellow Jobs moderator indicating (and pointing out) a lack of contact details.
Best regards,
Ralf
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Laurent KRAULAND (X)
France
Local time: 19:04
French to German
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| Good to know! | Feb 3, 2009 |
Thanks for this interesting discussion, gentlemen.
I too was in the case of having to say something about an outsourcer without actually having worked for them.
Laurent K.
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| Just an idea but... | Feb 3, 2009 |
Another translator once told me that he contacted Interpol about a fraudulent agency and got very good results.
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| I think we should be allowed to post on the Blue Board... | Feb 4, 2009 |
...even if we haven't actually worked for a particular outsourcer.
Unethical behavior can and does occur prior to the point of hiring, and I think it is good to warn others about it.
Just my opinion.
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Vito Smolej
Germany
Local time: 19:04
Member (2004)
English to Slovenian
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SITE LOCALIZER | Let's not fix what's not broken ... | Feb 4, 2009 |
Alexandra Goldburt wrote:
...even if we haven't actually worked for a particular outsourcer.
Unethical behavior can and does occur prior to the point of hiring, and I think it is good to warn others about it.
Just my opinion.
Changing the rules (BB or any other kind) can have a lot of unexpected side effects. I think Ralf's suggestion is to be followed. And I liked the Interpol suggestion (g).
Regards
Vito
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