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Is the ProZ Network becoming the \'Old Pro Network\'?
Thread poster: Ursula Peter-Czichi

Ursula Peter-Czichi  Identity Verified
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Oct 29, 2001

Last weekend I looked at the ProZ newsletter and wondered whether the new ProZ team sites would be helpful or not.

I am a relatively new ProZ member, but in other ways \'an old pro\' myself. So, I can understand the quest for acknowledgement of experience and achievement. However, I also know what institutionalized \'teamwork\' can do to squelch the spirit. It may prevent some lonely, but brilliant potential new members to sign up with ProZ. Of course, new people will not embrace what put them at a disadvantage. The formation of \'alliances\' has hurt large corporate structures for a long time. Could it hurt ProZ in the long run too?

I like this site and wonder what others think about this.



Ursula Peter-Czichi
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne  Identity Verified
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United we stand, divided we fall? Oct 29, 2001

I see what you are getting at. However, I am not sure that there is any cause for concern. The positive aspects just have to outweigh the negative ones.



I have been on Proz for over a year now and in that time I have been contacted by other Proz to help them out with a particular job. I too have called upon others to assist me in times of need too. I have absolutely no intention of setting up as an agency. I love running my own show, but what I love about it most of all, is being able to chose those with whom I work. And I mean clients and fellow translators.



Proz is good exposure, particularly if you remember that you are exposing yourself. Self-restraint is not always easy but gains respect and makes you someone others want to work with. Unconsciously to start with, but, as time went on, extremely consciously indeed, I started to sit up and take notice of the way certain people worked. Subject knowledge, curiosity, intellect, analytical skills all count. Quite apart from the amount you can learn from observing how others work, you start to see who thinks like you do, who works like you do, and who might write the same way you do. From then on, Proz is your oyster!



Off-stage, all sorts of contacts are made. Semi-formalising associations in the form of teams in a friendly way is positive publicity for you too. Your client will realise that you can work with others and get your act together. This makes you more attractive to work with.



I have had first-hand experience of this sort of informal team. My main speciality is yachting, and if push comes to shove, I could easily say just in 60 foot open class monohulls and multihulls. I started noticing the names of one or two other people doing similar work and one name stood out. I contacted the person, we met and now when he goes on holiday, he tells his clients to contact me, I do the same. Similarly, when I am really busy, I send clients his way. Neither of us has lost clients in doing so. Quite the opposite has happened. Clients are happy as they get their work done on time, the workload is spread but each client tends to contact their original translator first.



Furthermore, the type of text can come into play too. X is stronger on the engineeringy side of things and I am better when legalese comes into play. In either case, the specific technical boat context is still required. A relief too to know that you can always bounce ideas off each other. On one occasion, we were both having trouble getting one client to pay up after having done tons of work for him. The client asked us (separately) to lower our rates, contrary to what had been agreed before we started the work. United we did not just stand, we stood firm and got our money - at the agreed rate. Safety in numbers! We fall in line on rates for clients for whom we both work. No way would I ever want to set up a partnership, but working in parallel with someone as and when needed is truly beneficial all round... as long as you can find the right person, which can take time of course. Give it the time it needs, it may turn out to be worth it.

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Ursula Peter-Czichi  Identity Verified
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Oct 29, 2001

Hi Nikki, thank you for your response.

Obviously, there are only positive aspects to the type of team work as you describe it.



My concern was about structuring collaborations on the ProZ site. You hit the point with the word \'mini agency\'.

I have quite a bit of experience with corporate \'leadership\' and \'corporate team work\'. It always sounds good, but never works. Unfortunately, it always lasts right to the end because nobody wants to be the \'anti-team\' person.



There is no limitation to collaboration, alliances or friendship without the new feature on this site.



However, logic still says that the new feature will have a freezing effect on new members who will have a harder time bidding for jobs.



As you can see, I am not talking about people who may pursue their interests with just a tad more force than others. \"They do that anyway\", you ask? Sure, but do they need any more help with that?



My prediction for the new face of this site: More exclusiveness, more competition, more dishonesty, less fairness, less true team spirit and less fun.



Hope to be wrong on this!
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