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Nigerian scam received through profile (was: howcan this be allowed?)
Thread poster: Maria Luisa Duarte

Maria Luisa Duarte  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 23:24
English to Portuguese
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Jun 12, 2008

You have been sent a message via your ProZ.com page.
Author: mrry
Author's Profile: http://www.proz.com/profile/877852
Author's IP address: 196.201.89.189
Message type: Other
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kabilamercy@yahoo.com.au


>From Madam mercy Kabila.
Democratic Repulic of Congo But Reside in
Abidjan Cote d'ivoire
West Africa,

It is my pleasure to contact you for a business venture
which I intend to establish in your country. Though I have
not meet with you before
Dearest one, but I believe, one has to risk confiding in
succeed sometimes in life. There is this amount of
sixteen million U.S dollars($16,000,000.00) which my late
husband Laurent Desire Kabila kept for me and my son David
Urch Kabila with a Fiduciary Fund Holder in ivoiry coast
before he was assasinated by his bodyguard during this war
in Democratic Republic of Congo.

Now I have decided to invest these money in your country or
anywhere safe enough outside for security and political
reasons. I want you to help me claim and retrieve these
fund from the Fiduciary Fund Holders and transfer it into
your personal account in your country for investment
purposes on these areas:

1). Telecommunication
2). The Transport Industry
3). Five Star Hotel

If you can be of an assistance to me i will be pleased to
offer to you good % Of the total fund. I await your soonest
response.



Respectfully yours,
Madam mercy Kabila.



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Özden Arıkan  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 23:24
Member
English to Turkish
They do not send it because the site allows them to Jun 12, 2008

And the right thing to do in such cases is to contact the site staff via Support Page and forward them the email.

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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 23:24
English to German
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Depends on your profile e-mail settings Jun 12, 2008

Maria Luisa,
I agree with Özden: submitting a Support Request is the right thing to do in such cases - and to do so quickly is essential in order to stop the sender from generating further messages.

Since you seem to imply some sort of responsibility on the site's part: it all depends on your profile e-mail settings. Go to My ProZ.com - My profile - Settings - Email preferences, where you can determine the level of accessibility for your profile. Bear in mind that blocking your profile against messages will prevent such messages to hit your inbox, but will also prevent a genuine business request from coming through. You can also have ProZ.com staff vet messages sent - obviously, this may delay transmission.

Personally, I don't see this as a big issue - the recycle bin is just a click away...

Best regards,
Ralf


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Enrique Cavalitto
Local time: 19:24
SITE STAFF
Submit a support ticket Jun 12, 2008

Özden is right. Submitting a support request (including the email received) is the best way of dealing with email scam.

In this case the corresponding profile has been deleted.

Regards,
Enrique


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Maria Luisa Duarte  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 23:24
English to Portuguese
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I don't see this as a big issue - the recycle bin is just a click away Jun 12, 2008

[Personally, ...
Ralf


Sorry to disagree with you Ralf but I do see it as a big issue, I pay to be on this site and others use it as a free for all. It is the responsibility of the site to ensure that this type of infiltration does not take place.

Best regards
MLDRalf Lemster wrote:

Maria Luisa,
I agree with Özden: submitting a Support Request is the right thing to do in such cases - and to do so quickly is essential in order to stop the sender from generating further messages.

Since you seem to imply some sort of responsibility on the site's part: it all depends on your profile e-mail settings. Go to My ProZ.com - My profile - Settings - Email preferences, where you can determine the level of accessibility for your profile. Bear in mind that blocking your profile against messages will prevent such messages to hit your inbox, but will also prevent a genuine business request from coming through. You can also have ProZ.com staff vet messages sent - obviously, this may delay transmission.

Personally, I don't see this as a big issue - the recycle bin is just a click away...

Best regards,
Ralf Personally, I don't see this as a big issue - the recycle bin is just a click away...
Ralf


Sorry to disagree with you Ralf but I do see it as a big issue, I pay to be on this site and others use it as a free for all. It is the responsibility of the site to ensure that this type of infiltration does not take place.

Best regards
MLD]


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 23:24
English to German
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The tools are at your disposal... Jun 12, 2008

Hi again,


Sorry to disagree with you Ralf but I do see it as a big issue, I pay to be on this site and others use it as a free for all. It is the responsibility of the site to ensure that this type of infiltration does not take place.

As I pointed out, it's up to you to (did you have vetting activated?) - the only perfect way of avoiding such messages is to block your profile. I'm paying my ISP a monthly sum to operate a spam filter (which catches between 500 and 2,000 messages each day), but still, there are some messages coming through. I'm afraid the reality in electronic communications is that there is no perfect protection against unwanted messages.

Best regards,
Ralf


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Jared Tabor
Local time: 19:24
SITE STAFF
Helping to maintain a secure workplace for the community Jun 12, 2008

Thank you Maria Luisa for reporting this, and thanks Özden, Ralf and Enrique for providing the steps for handling unwanted email sent through profiles. Reporting these issues through the support system allows site staff to efficiently address the problem and not only helps prevent further unwanted email through your profile, but through other members' profiles as well. As Enrique indicated, the profile involved was removed as soon as staff became aware of the problem. Thanks.

Best regards,

Jared


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Maria Salud Herrero Calpena  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 23:24
English to Spanish
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Amazing! Jun 12, 2008

I was really surprised when I read the contents of the e-mail and to see how you got it. I got a similar one in my private e-mail some months ago. It was clearly a fraud and considered informing the police but in the end I simply ignored it. Maybe I should have done something. Yes, maybe you should submit a support request.
Good luck
Maria Salud


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lexical  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 23:24
Portuguese to English
check the amount Jun 12, 2008

The amount left by the dear departed husband is usually 34 million USD in most of these scams. I think you should ask the sender to count the notes again - 16 million sounds on the low side.

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xxxJPW  Identity Verified
Local time: 22:24
Spanish to English
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check the amount...! Jun 12, 2008

Lexical wrote:

check the amount

The amount left by the dear departed husband is usually 34 million USD in most of these scams. I think you should ask the sender to count the notes again - 16 million sounds on the low side.


It's the credit crunch - even the scammers are getting it tight these days! That did make me laugh.

But I wasn't aware I could vet my e-mail settings until it was pointed out on this forum...mine are set to open, and I never get anything like this (touch wood, I think I'll change them now...). I don't think I've been round even near half of this site yet.

@ Mari Luisa - I think it was unfortunate you received this e-mail, but you shouldn't dwell on it, I mean, it would take a real idiot to fall for something like this, it's got S C A M written all over it.


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 23:24
English to German
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One of the oldest scams in the book... Jun 12, 2008

I mean, it would take a real idiot to fall for something like this, it's got S C A M written all over it.

'fraid not - this MO (including its countless variations) is one of the oldest scams in the book. In fact, it pre-dates the e-mail era - I recall getting such messages by telex when I was working in foreign exchange trading - back in 1985. (!)

The only explanation I have is that people keep falling for it...

Cheers, Ralf


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xxxJPW  Identity Verified
Local time: 22:24
Spanish to English
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oldest one in the book... Jun 12, 2008

Hi Ralf,

'fraid not - this MO (including its countless variations) is one of the oldest scams in the book. In fact, it pre-dates the e-mail era - I recall getting such messages by telex when I was working in foreign exchange trading - back in 1985. (!)


I have no doubt it's an oldie, as you say. But I never came across this in my foreign exchange days; we had other scams to worry about, face-to-face ones.

However, as you say, the fact that it is still seemingly as popular as ever, can mean only one thing:

there must be an awful lot of eejits out there...in fact, with a strong pair of binoculars, you can see 'em coming from miles away.

regards,

JP.


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Trudy Peters  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 17:24
German to English
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Pre-e-mail scams... Jun 12, 2008

The good thing about those was the beautiful Nigerian postage stamps I still have

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xxxRNolder  Identity Verified
Local time: 17:24
German to English
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I too received one of these too Jun 18, 2008

I received one of these in my private email too. I simply contacted the FTC and filled out a report and they are presently investigating it. Always place a support ticket if it comes through this site though! Maybe they can communicate with the FTC or other government agencies and collectively stop this type of nonsense.

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