Off topic: Где купить русскую клавиатуру?
Thread poster: xxxblawith
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Sep 1, 2005

Dear all,
Could anyone advice me on where is the best (cheap)place to buy an English/Russian or just Russian keyboard Cyrillic with Computer USB connection.
I did see few on e-bay, however price sounds to high Ј28.00 for the key board.
Thank you,

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Natalie  Identity Verified
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А зачем покупать клавиатуру, если можно купить наклейки? Sep 1, 2005

Вот эту нитку посмотрите:
http://www.proz.com/topic/4359

А еще дешевле клавиатуру просто подписать фломастером


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Ekaterina Khovanovitch  Identity Verified
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В России Sep 1, 2005

Здесь они у нас все такие продаются: и с русскими, и с английскими буквами. Можно попросить купить кого-нибудь из коллег и договориться о пересылке.
Но, по-моему, лучше всего не тратиться на русскую клавиатуру, а нарисовать её схему на бумажке (или распечатать готовую из Интернета) и, глядя на нее, набирать по-русски. Это один из самых надёжных способов научиться набирать на клавиатуре вслепую. Впрочем, существуют для этого и специальные программы. Многие из них - бесплатные или гораздо дешевле клавиатуры. Могу посоветовать, что лучше выбрать.

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Victor Potapov
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Buy it in Russia (Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, etc.) - or indeed learn touch-typing! Sep 1, 2005

I would support the touch-typing option. When you touch-type every day you do not need to see the markings on the keys. The down side of this - when asked where a particular letter is on the keyboard, you cannot remember it - unless you extend your hands and try to mentally "type" it on an imaginary keyboard...

Anyway, here's a case study.

I travel a lot, so my notebook sees a lot of wear and needs to be replaced every 18 months to 2 years. I buy my notebooks from a US supplier - and they are factory-refurbished (so cost about 30-40% less than same models from a shop). By definition (US market) they come without Cyrillic stickers on the keyboard. I type so much (or with such force???) that even the Latin symbols on the central row of the keys (you know, asdf - jkl;) are now somewhat worn off - this notebook is almost 2 years old, and for large-volume & rush texts I use a special ergonomic keyboard (more on it below).

I tried the letter stickers once - didn't work for me as they tend to unglue (notebooks get hot, glue is thermally unstable), stick to your fingers and make a general mess.

I once tried "laser-engraved" Cyrillic keyboard - the ergonomic one mentioned above. It was good... for about 6 months. After that I saw that the Russian letters (not engraved, of course, but rather printed with some industrial-strength ink) grew bleaker and almost vanished now - 2 years after I started using this keyboard.

The problem is these additional markings (and, of course, stickers) disappear first from the most used keys = from where you need them most - unless you touch-type.

QED - and hope this helps.

blawith wrote:

Dear all,
Could anyone advice me on where is the best (cheap)place to buy an English/Russian or just Russian keyboard Cyrillic with Computer USB connection.


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Arthur Allmendinger  Identity Verified
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YaWERTY is a good alternative Sep 1, 2005

Natalie wrote:

А еще дешевле клавиатуру просто подписать фломастером



Я никогда не пользовался русской клавиатурой, так как привык к латинской раскладке (QWERTY).

Нужно просто загрузить соответсвующую фонетическую раскладку русской клавиатуры, где большинство русских букв соответствует сходным по звучанию латинским буквам, и можно обойтись без всяких наклеек.

Информация о том, как это сделать, имеется тут:

YaWERTY Phonetic cyrillic keyboard layout

http://www.siber.com/sib/russify/ms-windows/keyboard/


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Sybille  Identity Verified
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Try the following address: Sep 1, 2005

http://www.jourist-online.de/russisch.php?BookID=0_1114

Best regards


Sybille


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Alexander Panow
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Сибиль права: лучший адрес - это фирма Jourist.de Sep 2, 2005



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