Trados 2007 and MS Word 2002: -{}- mark Thread poster: Justyna Kula
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Dear all,
I have a problem with Trados 2007 and MS Word 2002. When I try to open a segment or close one segment and open another or simply close a segment, Trados refuses to cooperate and this mark appears: -{}-. The Workbench shows the message: "No previous search! Could not save translation unit. Use "Close" without saving."
Then nothing works but Close without saving or Fix document command.
Any idea what might be wrong and how it can be fixed?
... See more Dear all,
I have a problem with Trados 2007 and MS Word 2002. When I try to open a segment or close one segment and open another or simply close a segment, Trados refuses to cooperate and this mark appears: -{}-. The Workbench shows the message: "No previous search! Could not save translation unit. Use "Close" without saving."
Then nothing works but Close without saving or Fix document command.
Any idea what might be wrong and how it can be fixed?
Justyna ▲ Collapse
| | | | metpet (X)
Local time: 16:20
English to Slovak
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| It might be a formatting problem. | Apr 23, 2008 |
Hello,
it might be a word formatting problem. Maybe you can send me part of the document and I can have a look at it.
Try another translation memory. If the problem persists the problem will probably be in the document formatting.
Good luck!
| | | | | More details | Apr 23, 2008 |
Is there any message in Word' status bar? Is there anything else strange happening? This sounds very familiar to me, but i cannot remember how I fixed the problem. If you could provide me some more details, maybe I will remember...
Regards,
Elena
| | | | Justyna Kula 
Local time: 16:20
English to Polish
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TOPIC STARTER | It's not a formatting problem | Apr 23, 2008 |
The document I'm translating has no complex formatting. I even changed the font from Tahoma to Arial to avoid problems.
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Justyna Kula
Local time: 16:20
English to Polish
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TOPIC STARTER | No messages in the Word status bar | Apr 23, 2008 |
Elena, I didn't notice any error messages in Word.
But I'm wondering if it might have something to do with Microsoft Visual Basic...
| | | | Margreet Logmans (X)
Netherlands
Local time: 16:20
English to Dutch
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| Fix document? | Apr 23, 2008 |
Have you tried Fix Document?
| | | | Justyna Kula
Local time: 16:20
English to Polish
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TOPIC STARTER | Fix Document | Apr 23, 2008 |
Margreet Logmans wrote:
Have you tried Fix Document?
I did, but it slows me down when I have to fix the document every second sentence. And it is a bit annoying.
| | | | Margreet Logmans (X)
Netherlands
Local time: 16:20
English to Dutch
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| Annoying indeed | Apr 23, 2008 |
Just a guess, but are you using Multiterm?
If you are, try closing MT, do Fix Document once again and see what happens.
MT has caused me a lot of trouble in the past. If you're not using MT, I'm out of options.... Good luck!
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| Possible cause for the problem | Apr 23, 2008 |
So you try and save a segment, the brackets appear, then you fix the doc and move to the next segment? Are you sure that the Workbench really saves your translation?
I have experienced the following situation (many times): When trying to save a segment, nothing happens. I don't remember what was the message in the workbench but i suspect that it is the same as yours. But also, there was a message like this in Word when I tried to perform any action (at the bottom left): "... because a tran... See more So you try and save a segment, the brackets appear, then you fix the doc and move to the next segment? Are you sure that the Workbench really saves your translation?
I have experienced the following situation (many times): When trying to save a segment, nothing happens. I don't remember what was the message in the workbench but i suspect that it is the same as yours. But also, there was a message like this in Word when I tried to perform any action (at the bottom left): "... because a translation unit is already open...". In cases like this I fix the document, all nonprinting symbols appear (!!!), I hide them and continue working. (Sometimes I fix the Trados tags manually because the Fix command is not very clever...).
If this is your case, don't copy any text manually in the document. The problem also appears when you copy formatting. (In both cases you copy hidden symbols and formatting and this confuses the Trados macros). And one more problems generator: If you use keyboard shortcuts it is possible that you turn the Num lock on and off. Then, when you try to enter numbers using the numpad, you move the insertion point. And if it happens that you move the insertion point over a hidden tag and enter any symbol there, the segment won't close normally. That is my annoying experience with this software and I hope that my conclusions are correct and helpful. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | search for "curly brackets" in the forums | Apr 23, 2008 |
hi,
this problem sounds familiar - did you try to search for "curly brackets" in the forums? I think you might find some help there
| | | | Percy Balemans (X)
Netherlands
Local time: 16:20
| Try changing the document view in Word | Apr 23, 2008 |
Elena Boevska wrote:
But also, there was a message like this in Word when I tried to perform any action (at the bottom left): "... because a translation unit is already open...".
I sometimes get that message when the segment is an item in a bulleted or numbered list and I am viewing the document in Print Layout view in Word. In that case, switching to Draft view helps. Maybe this helps solve your problem as well?
| | | | David Earl
United States
Local time: 08:20
German to English
| Had this problem with earlier versions | Apr 24, 2008 |
The problem seemed to be related to embeded formulas/documents (Excel files and Pictures, in this case) in the paragraph being translated. If the embedded formulae/docs were in a separate paragraph, they weren't a problem.
Because of deadline, I didn't have time to search for a solution. Only a few paragraphs were involved (and Multiterm was not), so I simply edited those paragraphs without Trados. I hope the comment here helps find the solution again, if it has already been discuss... See more The problem seemed to be related to embeded formulas/documents (Excel files and Pictures, in this case) in the paragraph being translated. If the embedded formulae/docs were in a separate paragraph, they weren't a problem.
Because of deadline, I didn't have time to search for a solution. Only a few paragraphs were involved (and Multiterm was not), so I simply edited those paragraphs without Trados. I hope the comment here helps find the solution again, if it has already been discussed. ▲ Collapse
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Try this:
1. open file in unicode text editor
2. find and remove all -{}- marks
3. save file and run one more time in MS Word
It should help
Regards,
Michal
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