Trados word count and repetitions
Thread poster: Louise Dupont

Louise Dupont  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 04:57
English to French
Jul 28, 2004

Here is the Trados wordcount, my client tells me that I have 10,000 words to translate. Can you help me understand the repetition concept. If the word "Yes" is repeated a hundred times in the document, does it appear 1 time in the no match count and 99 times in the repetition count?
Analyse Total (27 files):

Match Types Segments Words Percent Placeables
XTranslated 0 0 0 0
Repetitions 12,788 51,798 93 52
100% 0 0 0 0
95% - 99% 0 0 0 0
85% - 94% 0 0 0 0
75% - 84% 0 0 0 0
50% - 74% 0 0 0 0
No Match 558 3,703 7 2
Total 13,346 55,501 100 54

Chars/Word 5.81
Chars Total 322,600

Thanks!


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Segments vs. words Jul 28, 2004

Hi Louise,
You need to distinguish 'segments' from 'words': a segment may contain a single word (in which case segments containing "yes" would count as repetitions), but most segments contain several words.

HTH, Ralf


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Louise Dupont  Identity Verified
Canada
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Words and segments Jul 28, 2004

Dear Ralf,

I know that the word "Yes" stands alone (not part of a segment)a lot of times in the document.
So the real question is :"Who's getting the deal, the agency or me?"

Thanks!


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Ilde Grimaldi  Identity Verified
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Exactely Jul 28, 2004

"If the word "Yes" is repeated a hundred times in the document, does it appear 1 time in the no match count and 99 times in the repetition count?"

Exactely.

you can test by yourself creating a new Word document, pasting this
Who is getting the deal?
Who is getting the deal?

and analysing it with an empty TM.
The result will be 5 newr words and 5 repeted words.

Ilde

[Edited at 2004-07-28 14:00]


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tectranslate ITS GmbH
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Also... Jul 28, 2004

Ilde Grimaldi wrote:
you can test by yourself creating a new Word document, pasting this
Who is getting the deal?
Who is getting the deal?

and analysing it with an empty TM.
The result will be 5 newr words and 5 repeted words.

Ilde

Yup, and even more interesting:
Make a file with
Who is getting the deal?
Who is getting the deal?
The deal is getting who?

and your analysis will show 3 segments, 10 new words, and 5 repetitions.


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 10:57
German to Spanish
No comprendo ;) No exactly like this Jul 28, 2004

Ilde Grimaldi wrote:

"If the word "Yes" is repeated a hundred times in the document, does it appear 1 time in the no match count and 99 times in the repetition count?"

Exactely.

you can test by yourself creating a new Word document, pasting this
Who is getting the deal?
Who is getting the deal?

and analysing it with an empty TM.
The result will be 5 newr words and 5 repeted words.

Ilde

[Edited at 2004-07-28 14:00]


To make a quotation you need the repeated segments only.
If "Yes" apears like a segment (so like answers to questions in a table)so in this case a word is a segment too

Rgds

Toledo

[Edited at 2004-07-28 15:53]


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 10:57
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Only the Jul 28, 2004

Only the "yes" that appears into repeated segments will be counted. So if "yes" appears in the document 100 times but is part of only a repeated segment, than is counted just one time as repeated.

Clear now?

Toledo

[Edited at 2004-07-28 15:53]

[Edited at 2004-07-28 18:33]


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asil
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be careful... Jul 28, 2004

to consider a different fee for the repetitions in the analysis word count. No matter how many times a word or segment is repeated in the document, you'll spend time proofreading it and editing it, and therfore, must be paid. At a different, lower rate if you want, but definitely paid.
Good luck,

Sergio


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