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Helga Humlova
Helga Humlova  Identity Verified
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Apr 8, 2005

I have Trados 6.5. FL Build 439.
Until yesterday I only used Trados for the translation of WORD Documents.
Now I had this PowerPoint document and wanted to use T-Window for PowerPoint - and, what a surprise - after clicking on the relevant icon the system told me that there is a FATAL ERROR and that I cannot use this T-Window. I restarted my PC - same result. I completely deinstalled Trados and reinstalled again - same result.

Any ideas anyone?

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I have Trados 6.5. FL Build 439.
Until yesterday I only used Trados for the translation of WORD Documents.
Now I had this PowerPoint document and wanted to use T-Window for PowerPoint - and, what a surprise - after clicking on the relevant icon the system told me that there is a FATAL ERROR and that I cannot use this T-Window. I restarted my PC - same result. I completely deinstalled Trados and reinstalled again - same result.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks in advance
Helga ▲ Collapse
 
Jerzy Czopik
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Simply use TAG Editor for this task Apr 8, 2005

it is much easier to handle ppt in that way.

Regards
Jerzy
 
Helga Humlova
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Tag Editor? Apr 8, 2005

Jerzy Czopik wrote:

it is much easier to handle ppt in that way.

Regards
Jerzy


Moment, Jerzy, das verstehe ich nicht! Einfach TagEditor aufmachen und dann PP-Dokument laden? Oder wie? Ich habe nicht den blassesten Schimmer wovon du sprichst. Muss man da nicht vorher was umwandeln?
Danke im Voraus fuer deine guten Nerven
Helga
 
Ralf Lemster
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Exactly, Apr 8, 2005

Hi Helga,
I'll stay in English if you don't mind...

You can open PPT files in TagEditor - first opening may take several minutes (while TE converts PPT formatting to tags).

Have a look at the File Formats Reference Guide (included in your installation - Start - Programs - Trados 6.5 FL - Documentation) for the workflow.

Best, Ralf
 
Tekkie (X)
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TagEditor kann PowerPoint-Dateien direkt verarbeiten Apr 8, 2005

Helga Humlova wrote:

Einfach TagEditor aufmachen und dann PP-Dokument laden?

Ja.
 
Jerzy Czopik
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Ralf has said almost everything Apr 8, 2005

I'll try to keep this in English too.

What you should bear in mind, is the same as allways. It is worth to prepare the file for translation, correcting formatting issues and bringing sentences togeter, which are very often broken in PPT due to the lack of skill of people, who make the presentation. Look in PPT, if you don't have text boxes for every single piece of text or if there are no unnecessary line breaks. If you don't delete them, then you will get badly segmented text for t... See more
I'll try to keep this in English too.

What you should bear in mind, is the same as allways. It is worth to prepare the file for translation, correcting formatting issues and bringing sentences togeter, which are very often broken in PPT due to the lack of skill of people, who make the presentation. Look in PPT, if you don't have text boxes for every single piece of text or if there are no unnecessary line breaks. If you don't delete them, then you will get badly segmented text for translation.

After you are finished with the translation with TAG Editor (bear Ralf's advice in mind - the opening of a ppt file may take several minutes, even on a very fast machine - even half an hour is not too much, so simple start the process and get yourself a cup of coffee) you will need to save your target file as ppt (refer to TAG Editors help, how to do that) and then open this again in PPT to make the final changes.
This process is still much faster and much more convenient than to work in PPT directly.

Kind regards
Jerzy ▲ Collapse
 
Helga Humlova
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Thanks, but ... Apr 8, 2005

Jerzy, Ralf, thanks for the "cook book". I'll try this over the weekend. You sure know what you are talking about, but I'd still like to know why i) I cannot open the T-Window for PP (get the Fatal Error message) and ii) they invented this thing when it doesn't seem to be convenient anyway.

Helga

Jerzy Czopik wrote:

I'll try to keep this in English too.

What you should bear in mind, is the same as allways. It is worth to prepare the file for translation, correcting formatting issues and bringing sentences togeter, which are very often broken in PPT due to the lack of skill of people, who make the presentation. Look in PPT, if you don't have text boxes for every single piece of text or if there are no unnecessary line breaks. If you don't delete them, then you will get badly segmented text for translation.

After you are finished with the translation with TAG Editor (bear Ralf's advice in mind - the opening of a ppt file may take several minutes, even on a very fast machine - even half an hour is not too much, so simple start the process and get yourself a cup of coffee) you will need to save your target file as ppt (refer to TAG Editors help, how to do that) and then open this again in PPT to make the final changes.
This process is still much faster and much more convenient than to work in PPT directly.

Kind regards
Jerzy
 
Ralf Lemster
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Trying to answer... Apr 9, 2005

Hi again,
You sure know what you are talking about, but I'd still like to know why i) I cannot open the T-Window for PP (get the Fatal Error message)

Have a look at this article from the Trados KB (found by selecting T-Window for PowerPoint and entering "fatal error").

and ii) they invented this thing when it doesn't seem to be convenient anyway.

T-Window for PowerPoint was introduced earlier (at least with T5.0, probably earlier than that), while TagEditor has only recently (T6.5.x) been able to handle PowerPoint and Excel files. The reason why the two T-Window applications which were, in effect, made redundant by extended TagEditor functionality are still included is to provide support for existing T-Window projects.

Hope that clarifies it.

Best, Ralf
 
IanW (X)
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Thanks Ralf May 24, 2005

Thanks for the link to the article, Ralf - it worked a treat. I experienced the same problem ever since I installed MS Office XP. Incidentally, I use TagEditor on PPTs, but use the T-Window for exporting text files from PPTs - ideal for spell checks and line counts!

All the best


Ian
 
Karin Kutscher
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New Problems with PPT in Trados Dec 21, 2005

Hi all,

I really need to use Trados in a .ppt and T-Window for Powerpoint doesn't even open.

I couldn't find any PPT10.pcb or PPT.pcb files in my whole C: drive.

With regard to TagEditor, when I try to open my .ppt in TE I'm asked to define a DTD settings file. I don''t know how to do this. Please help!

Thanks
 
Ralf Lemster
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More details required - and I suggest to post a new topic Dec 21, 2005

Hi Karin,
Can you please indicate the software versions you're using:

- MS Office/PowerPoint
- Trados (Full version number including the 'build number', please - go to Help - About... to find out.)

With regard to TagEditor, when I try to open my .ppt in TE I'm asked to define a DTD settings file.

Opening PPT files in TE doesn't require a DTD - sounds as if you're trying to open it using TagEditor 6.0 or lower?

Best regards,
Ralf
 
Jerzy Czopik
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Your EXACT Trados version please? Dec 21, 2005

To get it, in Workbench go to Help - Info and post this info here.

Thank you
Jerzy
 
RWSTranslation
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Powerpoint Dec 21, 2005

Hello,

Don't know exactly why, but sometimes it can be a problem if you updated your PowerPoint/Office version after installing Trados.
If there are problems with Powerpoint it can be helpful to install Trados again (over the existing old Trados installation).

Hans
 


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