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Exact definition of TRADOS repetition
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Todd Field  Identity Verified
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Jun 19, 2005

I'm posting this here because I'm having trouble finding this information anywhere in the TRADOS user manuals.

My question: what is the exact definition of a TRADOS repetition?

In other words, if my TRADOS analysis says a file has 10,000 new words and 5,000 repetitions, does this mean:

1) I have only 10,000 new words to translate, since 5,000 are literal repetitions of the first subset of 10,000

2) I actually have more than 10,000 new words to translate, since the 5,000 are repetitions of each other in some combination (i.e. maybe 2,500 repeated by the other 2,500)

Hope this question makes sense. This is one of those mathematical brain teasers that has been driving me nuts.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Todd


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
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Simple ;-) Jun 19, 2005

You have 10.000 new words AND 5000 that are repeated.
So you will need to translate 10.000 and to "edit" 5000.

Take a look at http://www.catcount.com/ for more information.

Rgds

Toledo


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Hynek Palatin  Identity Verified
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Repetitions Jun 19, 2005

I believe 1) is correct.

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Alvin Liu  Identity Verified
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1 is right Jun 20, 2005

During analysis, Translator's Workbench reads the text(s) segment by segment to determine the corresponding match value. The Analyse feature searches your translation memory for identical or similar segments as well as any XTranslated Units that were inserted during XTranslation. Translator's Workbench also examines the text for repetitions during the same Analyse run. The first occurrence of a segment with no match in translation memory is interpreted as a no match; the second occurrence of the same segment is counted as a repetition. A repetition is different from a 100% match in so far as it is defined in relation to an identical no match segment: once the corresponding no match segment has been translated, the new translation is applied automatically to successive instances ?repetitions ?of the segment in the same translation project.

Taken From: Translator's Workbench Help, (c) 2004 TRADOS Incorporated.


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xxxOlaf
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See http://support.trados.com/view.asp?cntID=482 Jun 20, 2005

Todd and Monica Field wrote:

I'm posting this here because I'm having trouble finding this information anywhere in the TRADOS user manuals.

My question: what is the exact definition of a TRADOS repetition?

In other words, if my TRADOS analysis says a file has 10,000 new words and 5,000 repetitions

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Repetitions can be both repetions of "fuzzy matches" and repetitions of "no matches." (Trados doesn't distinguish between the quality of the match that was repeated.) Also note that Trados counts repetions based on all files that are being analyzed. This means that you'll get a different number of repetitions, if you analyze a file separately or as part of a batch.
This means that you'll have to translate 10000 new words and 5000 repetions of either new matches or fuzzy matches.


[Edited at 2005-06-21 12:38]


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