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Upgrading to Trados 7 but keeping older version (one on each computer)
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Mónica Machado
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Jul 13, 2005

Hello All/Ralf,

I would like advice on the following:

I have Trados Worbench, freelance edition (Trados, version 6.5.5.438 (build 439)) and a paralel dongle.

I now intend to get a lap top but that machine has no paralel dongle, only USBs.

What I need to know is whether I would be able to upgrade from Trados 6.5.5 (build 439) to Trados 7 on my new laptop (with softkey), and keep Trados 6.5.5 on my older machine? So that I have Trados 6.5.5. in the older machine with paralel port and Trados 7 in the new machine with softkey.

Since the laptop has no paralel port, I could install Trados 6.5.5 on it using conversion cable (paralel on one end and USB on the other), couldn't I? I need to install the older version on the laptop to then be able to upgrade it.

Ralf, please let me know if my assumptions are correct and whether the above is feasible.

Thanks for your support
Kind regards,
Mónica

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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Why not use T7 on both machines? Jul 13, 2005

Hi Mónica,
What I need to know is whether I would be able to upgrade from Trados 6.5.5 (build 439) to Trados 7 on my new laptop (with softkey), and keep Trados 6.5.5 on my older machine? So that I have Trados 6.5.5. in the older machine with paralel port and Trados 7 in the new machine with softkey.

Why wouldn't you want to upgrade on both machines?

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Q. Can I install my copy of TRADOS Freelance on more than one computer?
A. Yes. From the Customer Center, you are entitled to download two (2) softkey license files to use on up to two (2) computers. The softkey license is required to complete installation.


Generally, I find it beneficial to use the same software version across computers, because (i) you have the same functionality; and (ii) you can exchange databases without having to convert.

Since the laptop has no paralel port, I could install Trados 6.5.5 on it using conversion cable (paralel on one end and USB on the other), couldn't I?

Theoretically, yes...

I need to install the older version on the laptop to then be able to upgrade it.

Not at all. The upgrade is a full installation.

Best regards,
Ralf


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Mónica Machado
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Moving from Trados 6.5.5 to Trados 7 but keeping Trados 6.5.5 on a separate machine Jul 13, 2005

Hi Ralf,

Thanks for your prompt assistance.

As for your queries:

From Trados Support I got (today) the following message:

"(...)I need to add one specification: the softkey license is not backwards compatible with previous TRADOS versions, but will only work with TRADOS 6.5 and 7 freelance. If clients still ask you to deliver translations in TRADOS version 6.0, 5.5 or 3, you can keep your dongle. If you only need to work with TRADOS 6.5 and 7 freelance, the softkey license is sufficient. In the first case (so if you still need to use the dongle) you should first exchange the dongle into a USB one (to be able to work with your new laptop) and then upgrade to TRADOS 7 Freelance."

So, I guess it would be wise to keep the older Trados version in case some client is still working with Trados 6 or previous versions.

Since I don't need to have the older version of Trados on the new machine before upgrading it (that's great!), I can install the upgrade on the new machine (using a softkey) and keep Trados 6.5.5 (with paralel port) undisturbed on the older machine for the time being. Correct?

Trados 7 is so new, I guess it's better to keep the older version in case something goes wrong...

But because I will receive two soft keys I can use one on the new machine and then later on use the other one on the older computer, when I upgrade it.

As for TMs... yes, having two different versions of TMs might be strange and confusing. But I do keep all memories safe in txt format (ready for importing if needed), so I guess it wouldn't be a problem. Having the two versions working on different machines I can easily swap if I encounter difficulties in Trados 7.

What do you think? Am I thinking correctly?
Thanks
Kind regards,
Mónica


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Older versions Jul 13, 2005

Hi again,
"(...)I need to add one specification: the softkey license is not backwards compatible with previous TRADOS versions, but will only work with TRADOS 6.5 and 7 freelance. If clients still ask you to deliver translations in TRADOS version 6.0, 5.5 or 3, you can keep your dongle. If you only need to work with TRADOS 6.5 and 7 freelance, the softkey license is sufficient. In the first case (so if you still need to use the dongle) you should first exchange the dongle into a USB one (to be able to work with your new laptop) and then upgrade to TRADOS 7 Freelance."

You said you're working with T6.5.5.438/439, in which case your TMs wouldn't be compatible with earlier versions.

With the exception of some source format/TTX combinations, you can always deliver a TM export and/or uncleaned file to clients: even someone with T3.0 can work on a Word file segmented using T6.5.5.

So, I guess it would be wise to keep the older Trados version in case some client is still working with Trados 6 or previous versions.

I've read this many times, but frankly, I fail to see the wisdom in keeping several outdated versions just because someone might still be using them.

Since I don't need to have the older version of Trados on the new machine before upgrading it (that's great!), I can install the upgrade on the new machine (using a softkey) and keep Trados 6.5.5 (with paralel port) undisturbed on the older machine for the time being. Correct?

You can do that, of course.

Trados 7 is so new, I guess it's better to keep the older version in case something goes wrong...

You could always roll back to T6.5.5 (which is covered by the soft license).

As for TMs... yes, having two different versions of TMs might be strange and confusing. But I do keep all memories safe in txt format (ready for importing if needed), so I guess it wouldn't be a problem. Having the two versions working on different machines I can easily swap if I encounter difficulties in Trados 7.

Exchanging data between your own computers using text export/import is cumbersome, compared to simply replicating the databases. But it's possible, of course.

Best regards,
Ralf


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Mónica Machado
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Thanks Ralf Jul 13, 2005

Hi Ralf,


You said you're working with T6.5.5.438/439, in which case your TMs wouldn't be compatible with earlier versions.


Since I work with exports, I don't really have any problems with older Trados TMs. The export files can be imported into new TMs, no matter the Trados version used.

So, I guess it would be wise to keep the older Trados version in case some client is still working with Trados 6 or previous versions.

I've read this many times, but frankly, I fail to see the wisdom in keeping several outdated versions just because someone might still be using them.


Ok.... I will have your opinion in mind. I guess I have to have a better look on what my clients are using and see the best way for both parties.

Since I don't need to have the older version of Trados on the new machine before upgrading it (that's great!), I can install the upgrade on the new machine (using a softkey) and keep Trados 6.5.5 (with paralel port) undisturbed on the older machine for the time being. Correct?

You can do that, of course.


Great... If I really have to keep both, off course.

Trados 7 is so new, I guess it's better to keep the older version in case something goes wrong...

You could always roll back to T6.5.5 (which is covered by the soft license).


Really? Didn't know that...

As for TMs... yes, having two different versions of TMs might be strange and confusing. But I do keep all memories safe in txt format (ready for importing if needed), so I guess it wouldn't be a problem. Having the two versions working on different machines I can easily swap if I encounter difficulties in Trados 7.

Exchanging data between your own computers using text export/import is cumbersome, compared to simply replicating the databases. But it's possible, of course.


Thanks Ralf. I really appreciate your assistance. It has helped me a lot. Everything looks clearer now... At least until Trados releases a newer version again

Best regards,
Mónica


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Rolling back Jul 13, 2005

One more thing...
You could always roll back to T6.5.5 (which is covered by the soft license).


Really? Didn't know that...

Well, by deinstalling T7 and reinstalling T6.5.5. Important: Export your TMs created in T7, as T6.5.x will not be able to open them.

Best, Ralf


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Mónica Machado
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Thanks, once again Jul 13, 2005

Hi again,

You could always roll back to T6.5.5 (which is covered by the soft license).


Really? Didn't know that...


Well, by deinstalling T7 and reinstalling T6.5.5. Important: Export your TMs created in T7, as T6.5.x will not be able to open them.


Yes, previous Trados version cannot open TMs created in older versions, unless TMs are exported/imported.

Cheers
Mónica


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