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Transforming a translated document from word in Trados
Thread poster: Andreea Judele

Andreea Judele
Netherlands
Local time: 18:07
French to Romanian
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Sep 18, 2007

Hi! I made a really big mistake and translated the file directly in word... Can I change it? Please help me...

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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
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More details, please Sep 18, 2007

Hi Andreea,
Can you please provide more details? What exactly is your problem - IOW: what are you trying to do, and find it impossible to do so?

Best regards,
Ralf


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Andreea Judele
Netherlands
Local time: 18:07
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Trying to take a translated file from Word Sep 18, 2007

... and move it in Trados, as my client said now that he wanted in Trados, clean and unclean files

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Evija Rimšāne  Identity Verified
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English to Latvian
it's simple... Sep 18, 2007

use WinAlign

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Andreea Judele
Netherlands
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Can you be more clear? Sep 18, 2007

As in... step by step please?

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Jerzy Czopik  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 18:07
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Polish to German
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Did you translate the file in Word using Trados? Sep 18, 2007

What would mean that after translation your Word file was billingual?
If so, this is the uncleaned file your customer demands.
Did you translate the Word file as usual, without Trados, you will indeed need to use Winalign, to get the results as fast as possible.

But please calm down and try to describe what have you done and what are you attempting to do as precise as you can. Better you write more than less

Jerzy


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 18:07
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Alignment? Sep 18, 2007

Hi again,
Andreea Tarnovanu wrote:

... and move it in Trados, as my client said now that he wanted in Trados, clean and unclean files

Still not sure what you mean by "moving" it into Trados. Trados is an application, not a file format.

If you need to create a bilingual file from monolingual source and target, you will need to align the two, as suggested by Evija. If your client cannot use the resulting project TM, you can 're-translate' the source file using the aligned TM.

Is that what you're looking for?

Best regards,
Ralf


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Andreea Judele
Netherlands
Local time: 18:07
French to Romanian
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Yes Sep 18, 2007

I have two documents in Word... one in English, the other translated by me in French. I need to send to the client clean and unclean file...

So... I would need a step-by-step help please....


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Jerzy Czopik  Identity Verified
Germany
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Take the tutorial provided with WinAlign Sep 18, 2007

There you have a step-by-step description of the whole process.

Before starting the WnAlign project make sure, that:[list]
  • your source and target Word file have identical formatting (styles)
  • your sentence order (called segmentation) is absolute identical in both files[/link]

    The tutorial is quite good, so start with it and ask here, if something remains unclear.

    Jerzy

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  • Andreea Judele
    Netherlands
    Local time: 18:07
    French to Romanian
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    Where is the tutorial Sep 18, 2007

    Jerzy Czopik wrote:

    There you have a step-by-step description of the whole process.

    Before starting the WnAlign project make sure, that:[list]
  • your source and target Word file have identical formatting (styles)
  • your sentence order (called segmentation) is absolute identical in both files[/link]

    The tutorial is quite good, so start with it and ask here, if something remains unclear.

    Jerzy



  • Now you will have to excuse me because I am being so distracted...


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    Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
    Germany
    Local time: 18:07
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    Installed with your software Sep 18, 2007

    You didn't indicate which operating system or Trados version you're using, so I'm assuming Windows XP and SDL Trados 2006.

    Go to Start - All Programs - SDL International - SDL Trados 2006 (FL) - Tutorials

    HTH, Ralf


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    Clarisa Moraña  Identity Verified
    Argentina
    Local time: 13:07
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    English to Spanish
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    You did not commit a mistake Sep 18, 2007

    Andrea


    When you translate a Word file using Trados, you are doing exactly what your client have requested. Nevertheless, before delivering the translation you should do the following:


    As soon as you translate the complete Word file make a copy of it. Thus, you would have:
    1) Original.doc
    2) Original-translation.doc
    3) Copy of Original-translation.doc

    You should clean only one of the translations, and the second one, let it as is.

    I believe you are new in Trados, aren't you? You should know that when using Trados Workbench for translating a word file you will always obtain an unclean file first . This is the "uncleaned file" your client is requesting you. If you make a copy of that file, and clean it using the trados feature TOOLS > CLEAN UP, you'll obtain the clean file requested by your client.

    Kind regards

    Clarisa


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    Anna Sylvia Villegas Carvallo
    Mexico
    Local time: 11:07
    English to Spanish
    Did you translate the file in Word using Trados? Sep 18, 2007

    If you did and then cleaned the file, your translation is IN your Trados TM (Workbench).

    You just need to retranslate the English file using the Trados translation memory (Workbench). Click the "Translate to Fuzzy" button, and you'll have the unclean file.

    If you did not use Trados, then, start "WinAlign" and follow the steps.


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