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Locking the threads: Why?

Enrique  Identity Verified
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Generalizations don't help Jun 8, 2009


Arnaud HERVE wrote:

Locking a thread puts offender and offended at the same level. We are like little children in primary school : "Be quiet now and I don't want to know who started first".

Unfortunately we are grown ups, and we wish to have rights. For instance the right to continue a thread decently without the offender.

Let me mention another anecdote :

1) A guy causes in the same week the closing of two threads, with clearly identifiable offensive messages.

2) The same guy appears on a third thread, making offensive remarks again and making jokes about urine, peeing and so on.



A thread is usually locked when the discussion is consistently heading for a direction that is not conducive to a professional and constructive atmosphere, not because of the actions of a single player who disregards the rules.

It may be worth noting that in two separate posts (now hidden because they departed from the posted topic) you asked the moderator to close one of these threads.

A site member posted a comment that included the word "urine" and this comment was hidden by the forum moderator.


Arnaud HERVE wrote:

3) That guy is asked to stop, but he comes back and points at "inconsistencies" of the original poster from an older thread to this one. Unfortunately the older thread was on a different topic, and the guy then becomes guilty of both being off topic, and stalking the original poster from thread to thread. Again, in the context that was clearly identifiable.

4) When the original poster complains about off topic and stalking, the moderator, a Proz.com staff member, choses to sanction the original poster, and puts him "under watch" for a month (which means the messages of the original poster, who is right, will always have to be approved by the Proz.com staff member, who is wrong). Of course the Proz.com moderator leaves online the message of the offender, clearly showing off-topic and stalking.


Making one reference to a former thread does not constitute stalking.

If there are posts still visible that you consider to be not in line with site rules please report them to support by means of a support request.

Your forum posting rights were subject to vetting during a month because of your consistent posting outside the posted topic in spite of the moderator's warnings.

Regards,
Enrique


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ICL  Identity Verified
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The library/the cafeteria Jun 8, 2009


M. Ali Bayraktar wrote:

For example if you [are] in a Library and there are 4 persons who break the silence and di[s]rturb other participants of this library, so will you close whole library?


Actually this example attracts my point of view: This is not equivalent of locking thread. Locking [a] thread mostly looks like closing [the] whole cafeteria, restaurant or company.

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Hi Ali,

We disagree on what we consider "locking" a public place. For me a thread is only part of the whole website, so locking a thread would be for me the equivalent of removing the customers in one table, not the whole restaurant (or just the loud library visitors, not the whole library).


M. Ali Bayraktar wrote:
I agree with the expression "fair enough", except locking threads.


At least we agree on the "fair enough" part.

Ivette


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