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Your thoughts on Infix and Nitro PDF editors
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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Sep 16, 2008

G'day everyone

I want to buy a tool that can edit PDFs. I've had a look at a number of programs and my shortlist consist of two tools, namely Infix and Nitro. If you have used either of these tools, please tell me what you think of it. What were your greatest disappointments with it?

Thanks!


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Reed James
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They need to fix Infix Sep 16, 2008

Samuel,

Hi. I've played around with Infix, and I can tell you that it doesn't support diacritical marks. If you open a document written in Spanish, it will show you weird characters instead of the original accented ones. So it's pointless for me to use it given my language combination.


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xxxBrandis
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Infix is a good tool. Sep 16, 2008

Hi! I had tried varios .pdf editors, when no CAT tool implementation is demanded. In File scanned .pdf files, I find Infix is a class of a programm. Why? one could edit almost everything available that is also editable ( ex: very complicated autocad diagrams, sometimes as invisible in a low pica area, the ocr cannot catch up) one could catch all that. I did 5 projects sofar and all were good. BR Brandis

[Edited at 2008-09-16 19:12]


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Wilmer Brouwer
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I used Nitro Sep 18, 2008

I used Nitro but I wouldn't recommend it. I noticed that Firefox crashed every time I opened a PDF after Nitro decided it wanted to be the preferred program for doing that without asking me. I had to change adobe back to the preferred program manually. It also didn't work when I opened a PDF file that had a document one could fill in. This document had a little warning pop up message if you filled in something in the wrong format. Nitro just froze on that warning and I had to stop the process in task manager. Apart from those two issues I discovered within two days of using it, it did edit PDF's nicely. Because I wasn't willing to pay for a piece of software that still has major errors (who knows how many more are out there I didn't discover) I decided not to buy it yet. I will try new versions in the future and if they are better I will seriously consider buying.

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hilmiselvi
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Good for editing Mar 4, 2010

Although pdf documents have nice features, it is difficult to work with editing these documents. I usually prepare using latex. Each time you make a correction you have to recompile.
Thanks Infix for this product.
I use pdf document while making presentation in class. During the lecture you have to add some comments or add expalnations to the documents which is impossible if you cannot edit the document.
Sincerely,


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Tomás Cano Binder, CT  Identity Verified
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Translation of PDF files with InFix Pro Oct 15, 2010

We have done a little project with four PDF files with a bit of a tricky formatting, and the results are quite nice. InFix Pro lets you save an XML file with all the text.

The XML file can be easily opened with TagEditor (InFix Pro has the adequate INI file in one of the installation folders), or segmented with Trados and translated in MemoQ, for instance.

Apart from some manual adjustments of the translated PDF after importing the translated XML file using InFix Pro, the results are simply impressing. A lot better than using an OCR (ABBY FineReader) to create a Word file and translating the Word file as we did before.


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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@Tomás Oct 15, 2010

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
InFix Pro lets you save an XML file with all the text.


Does the XML file contain information about the font face and font size as well?


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Tomás Cano Binder, CT  Identity Verified
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Yes! Everything Oct 15, 2010

Samuel Murray wrote:
Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
InFix Pro lets you save an XML file with all the text.

Does the XML file contain information about the font face and font size as well?

Indeed it does! You simply have to save the XML, translate it by whatever means you prefer/manage, and import the XML file again. Voilá!

Of course it does require some work in the stories created by InFix, to achieve the exact same format as the original PDF. If text is very tighly packed in the source file, or if table cells contain text up to and beyond their cell boundaries, there is a slight risk of InFix putting bits of text in the wrong cell or story, but other than that it works really nicely.


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Tomás Cano Binder, CT  Identity Verified
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Some experiences with Nitro Oct 15, 2010

BTW: We also had to deliver Word files to our customer, along with the translated PDF files. The translated PDF files we made with InFix Pro and a bit of adjustment, and then we used Nitro to make the Word DOC files.

The resulting DOC files are not perfect, and in some cases we had to spend quite some time adjusting boxes and positions in Word to make it all look like the source PDF files. The result however is a lot better than ABBYY FineReader's DOC files (we have ABBYY FineReader version 9). I reckon Nitro will make quite nice documents in the case of simple PDF files.

Now, one important warning about Nitro is that, as far as I can see, it does not OCR PDF files containing scanned images. For that kind of documents, I guess there is no other way than to OCR the pages, and in that area ABBYY FineReader usually interprets our files quite nicely.

As a quick conclusion, the tools to use in my opinion are:
1. InFix Pro if the customer just needs a PDF translated AND if the PDF contains text as objects (not as scanned images/pages).

2. ABBYY FineReader to make a Word files in the case of PDF containing scanned images/pages.

3. Nitro to make Word files in the case of PDF containing text as objects.

This is just a lot of tools, I guess. But none of them are awfully expensive (well, maybe ABBYY FineReader is).


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