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Thread poster: raylitalo
raylitalo
English
Nov 15, 2004

I have been trying to learn the Finnish Language by reading the English and Finnish Bibles Simultaneously, using a nice software program that allows me to display the verses in the two languages in two columns, side-by-side.

During this process, when I have been getting stuck I have tried going to website-based Finnish-English translators with very limitted success. Often I suspect that the problem may be that the online dictionaries are too general, because my searches for the words I am trying to translate often are not included in the online dictionaries.

So I am now seeking some nice software that might help me when I get stuck. Can anyone please give recommendations for me?

Thank you very much,

Ross Ylitalo
[email]raylitalo@charter.net[/email]


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Terence Ajbro
Sweden
Local time: 04:18
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Learning Finnish Nov 16, 2004

Terve Ross!

I did very much the same thing as you when I was learning Finnish. I know the Bible and Tolkien's Lord of the Rings very well so I purchased both in Finnish and started reading! Fortunately I could attend classes in Copenhagen for Finnish and managed to learn most of the grammar (such beauty!). However up to point I could come no further since interest in the Finnish language (at least in Denmark) is rather limited. After a certain level, there were just not enough people to make up a class.

If there is any software for learning Finnish, it is most likely to be in Swedish. It is a pity that Finnish is not as widespread as English is, I just love its regular grammar and orthography!

I have an excellent Finnish grammar in Swedish by a man called "Karlsson", if I remember rightly. The book is also available in English.

By the way, you have a Finnish surname which means "overhouse", right?

Good hunting!

Terence Ajbro


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Jeff Allen  Identity Verified
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language learning software programs Nov 21, 2004

raylitalo wrote:
I have been trying to learn the Finnish Language by reading the English and Finnish Bibles Simultaneously, using a nice software program that allows me to display the verses in the two languages in two columns, side-by-side.

So I am now seeking some nice software that might help me when I get stuck. Can anyone please give recommendations for me?
Ross Ylitalo


Terence Ajbro wrote:
I did very much the same thing as you when I was learning Finnish. I know the Bible and Tolkien's Lord of the Rings very well so I purchased both in Finnish and started reading!
If there is any software for learning Finnish, it is most likely to be in Swedish. It is a pity that Finnish is not as widespread as English is, I just love its regular grammar and orthography!

I have an excellent Finnish grammar in Swedish by a man called "Karlsson", if I remember rightly. The book is also available in English.
Terence Ajbro


Your mention of the use of the Bible as a language learning method is something which I described in a different way in an article a couple of years ago (The Bible as an untapped resource) for using the aligned segments (verses) in the Bible as a machine learning mechanism for MT and TM tools.
http://www.geocities.com/jeffallenpubs/bible.htm

As for translation software, I have heard that Pimsleur language learning software is very good. Check out:
http://www.multilingualbooks.com/

The US Foreign Services Institute (FSI) language learning software should also be good. Same website.

I've recently heard of another language learning software program that a colleague has used and has found to be very good. I can look into it.

FYI: One of the best language learning programs that I am aware of is has been offered by the Thunderbird Graduate School of International Management (Arizona, USA). Look up "thunderbird management arizona" on google.com and look at first 3 hits.
Their approach is very effective and confirmed by at least 2 people I know who have taken it. One went on to be a linguist and professional translator for many years.
I am not sure if the language program at Thunderbird still exists.


Jeff
http://www.geocities.com/jeffallenpubs/


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