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┬┐Es necesario ser residente en Espa├▒a para trabajar como funcionario?
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Ayer con unos amigos, hablabamos de este asunto. Mis amigos insistieron en que yo, por ejemplo, como residente aqu├ş (tarejeta renovable de 5 a├▒os, de pa├şs EU), podr├şa trabajar como funcionario.

Pero yo llevo muchos a├▒os aqu├ş y entiendo la situaci├│n de la manera siguiente.........

Los ├║nicos derechos que no tiene una persona de la UE que reside en Espa├▒a son

(1) no poder votar en las elecciones nacionales (aunque en las europeas y las municipales s├ş)

(2) no poder opositar y presentarme para cualquier puesto de trabajo para un organo del estado o de las comunidades autonomas.

Pero si se casa con un nativo de España, si que podrá asumir nacionalidad española, y por lo tanto adquirir los derechos para votar y para ser funcionario.

┬┐Alguien podr├şa confirmar si tengo raz├│n, y/o si hay casos en que non-nacionales pueden trabajar como funcionario?

Es pura curiosidad:-)


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Jes├║s Mar├şn Mateos  Identity Verified
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Seguro???? Aug 3, 2004

Yo siempre he creido que los ciudadanos comunitarios pueden opositar como cualquier espa├▒ol.

Soy consciente de que en otros paises como el Reino Unido hay ciertos trabajos a los que los no britanicos no tienen acceso. Me refiero a servicios de informacion que parecen tener contacto con informacion confidencial. Lo digo pq yo he querido trabajar como linguista para el MI5 y no me lo han permitido.

De todas formas en la convocatoria de cada oposicion se indican las bases y una de las primeras es el tema de la nacionalidad asi que te aconsejo que eches un vistazo en la que estes interesado y quizas haya suerte.

Hablas de la palabra residente. Yo incluso creo que no tienes ni que ser residente, es decir, te puedes presentar a la oposicion residiendo en otro pais y si la apruebas pues evidentemente tendrias que vivir en Espa├▒a.

Otro tema es si eres residente pero no ciudadano de la comunidad. En ese caso no tengo ni idea.



[Edited at 2004-08-03 21:43]


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Respuesta a Jesus Aug 3, 2004

Hola Jesus

S├ę que en GB que hay un 'nivel' de residencia que es 'permanent resident', y esto da el derecho de trabajar en el Civil Service (aunque posiblements no en ciertos tipos de trabajo)

Pero tal grado de residencia no existe aqu├ş. O tienes nacionalidad (con casarte), o el siguiente nivel, que es la reidencia de 5 a├▒os que concedan al EU (de hecho es para siempre, simplemente que hay que renovar cada 5 a├▒os).

No es que me interesa ser funcionario (en absoluto:-) ) pero me interesa saber la verdad:-)

A ver si alguien más sabe:-)

Acabo de encontar esto sobre el RU:

Nationality requirements

You can apply for any job in the Civil Service as long as you're a UK national or have dual nationality with one being British. As a European Economic Area national, EU national or Commonwealth citizen, you're eligible for about 75% of our jobs, but most Fast Stream candidates must be UK nationals. You'll be asked about your nationality at birth, whether you have ever possessed any other nationality or citizenship, whether you are subject to immigration control and whether there are any restrictions on your continued residence or employment in the UK.

UK National
UK national is as defined in the UK declaration on nationality for EC purposes made with effect from 1 January 1983. These are British citizens, British subjects under Part IV of the British Nationality Act 1981 having the right of abode in the UK, and British Dependent Territories citizens acquiring their citizenship from connection with Gibraltar. The Declaration also notes the reference in connection with the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, that "any citizen of the UK and Colonies" is to be understood as referring to any British citizen.

European Economic Area Nationals
European Economic Area National means a national of a European Community Member State or European Free Trade Area Member State. EC Member States (besides the UK) are the Member States of the European Community, ie Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Sweden. EFTA Member States are, for the purposes of recruitment to the UK Civil Service, Iceland and Norway from 1 January 1994 and Liechtenstein from 1 May 1995.

Switzerland - Although Switzerland is not part of the EEA, and Swiss nationals are not EEA nationals, the EU-Swiss Agreement (1 June 2002) confers upon Swiss nationals many of the same rights as are enjoyed by EEA nationals and their family members, including employment in the central departments of the Civil Service in non-reserved posts.

Commonwealth Citizens
Commonwealth citizen means any person who has the status of a Commonwealth citizen under the British Nationality Act 1981. This includes:

British Citizens;
British subjects with the right of abode in the UK (this generally applies to people who were born before 1 January 1949 and who had a connection with either British India or the Republic of Ireland);
British Dependent Territories citizens (ie people who obtained their citizenship from a connection with a territory which remains a British dependency eg Gibraltar, Bermuda);
British Overseas Citizens (ie people who have a connection with a former British colony - for example, Kenya - who did not become citizens of that country when it became independent and did not become British citizens).
A further category was added in 1986: British National (Overseas): this applies to former British Dependent Territories citizens connected with Hong Kong.
http://www.careers.civil-service.gov.uk/index.asp?txtNavID=164&635132=

[Edited at 2004-08-03 23:26]



[Edited at 2004-08-03 23:31]


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- Aug 4, 2004

No s├ę si habr├ín cambiado las cosas, porque llevo a├▒os fuera de Espa├▒a, pero cuando yo viv├şa all├ş, la primera condici├│n para ser funcionario era ser espa├▒ol. Ser residente no bastaba y para esto los ciudadanos de la UE y del resto del mundo se encontraban en la misma situaci├│n.
Por el contrario, no residentes pod├şan pasar a ser funcionarios, si eran de padre o madre espa├▒ola (lo que conlleva autom├íticamente la nacionalidad espa├▒ola aunque esa persona no haya estado nunca en Espa├▒a) o si proced├şan de algunos pa├şses hispanoamericanos con los que existe un acuerdo de doble nacionalidad


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