What exactly is a 'spotting list'?
Thread poster: Kate Warren

Kate Warren  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:59
Spanish to English
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Aug 8, 2008

Hi

Forgive me for my ignorance...

I understand a 'spotting list' consists of: time in, time out and a text to translate...

Is this, e.g. a Word document, with which you can work out the number of seconds for each segment of script? I imagine that you would have to make your translation 'fit' the time period for that segment.

What would be the appropriate way of specifying to a company that you offer this type of translation rather than a more complex subtitling procedure?

Many thanks

Kate


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Juan Jacob  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 15:59
French to Spanish
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This IS a spotting list. Aug 8, 2008

476.
04:00:10:13
04:00:12:05
OK. I'll tell him.

477.
04:00:19:19
04:00:21:08
Are they coming?

478.
04:00:21:21
04:00:24:07
No, they're at the Bratten Café.

This is NOT a spotting list.

1-1 123.12 125.11 1.15 WENDY TO DOG
Attrape, Lu.

1-2 128.00 130.05 2.05 WENDY TO DOG
Donne-moi le bâton.

1-3 136.12 138.08 1.12 WENDY TO DOG
Lâche-le.

1-4 142.06 144.06 2.00 WENDY TO DOG
Lâche-le.

This is NOT a spotting list.

2
01:00:41:12
0062+04 CUT TO RECONSTRUCTION. ANGLE THRU RAIN COVERED WINDOW TO WOODEN CRATE - MOVE IN

PHILIPPE (V/O) TO AUDIENCE: In the middle of the night, I have almost like a nightmare. 1/001 01:00:41:13
0062+05 01:00:44:05
0066+05 02:16
4+00

01:00:44:10 / 0066+10
START MUSIC (SCORE)

PHILIPPE (V/O) TO AUDIENCE: I wake up and I had forgotten to nail shut the crate. 1/002 01:00:46:14
0069+14 01:00:50:11
0075+11 03:21
5+13

If the company asks you just to translate, either example one or two, that's OK for you.
But, if you have to SUBTITLE a DVD or whatever, example 2 is no good. (You'll have to take out WENDY TO DOG, 1.15, 1-1, and probably convert feet into seconds. A lot of trouble).

The problem is: producers don't know what a spotting list is, incredible. They simply send you the complete script. A lot a work to do with them, I can surely say it to you. That's my job.

Luck.


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kmtext
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You'd have to specify subtitle translation Aug 11, 2008

As Juan said, many producers don't know exactly what a spotting list is and will send a transcript of a programme instead.

I'd suggest that if you're approaching companies as a subtitle translator, you should specify that and make it clear that you want to translate subtitles as opposed to transcripts. Try contacting some of the subtitling houses rather than producers to begin with because they usually send out edited templates as a rule and most producers, at least in the UK, tend to work through subtitling houses anyway.

It's much easier to work from an edited translation template than from a full transcript, even if it does have full timecode information, but always ask for a video file too for reference.


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Kate Warren  Identity Verified
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Many thanks Juan and kmtext Aug 11, 2008

Thanks both...

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José Henrique Lamensdorf  Identity Verified
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A matter of being specific Aug 26, 2008

Kate, I think you could say that you translate subtitles, and not that you translate [from] video for subtitling.

This sounds perfectly clear for me, however considering our colleagues' coments, maybe your prospects wouldn't notice the difference.


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