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Giving out my social insurance number to agency in Spain

Vikki Leung  Identity Verified
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Good advice about using the driver's licence number Sep 19, 2010

In Canada, I have seen people from government agencies take my SIN, make some phone call to some automated service, to obtain and confirm very personal information such as my date of birth. I don't know if that is a restricted service, but I would be very hesitant giving away my SIN. I work with agencies in Europe (none in Spain, though) and was never asked for it.

By the way, it was only earlier this year that I had a close call with identity theft, so obviously even my safe practices were not good enough.


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John Rawlins  Identity Verified
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Good faith Sep 19, 2010

I feel that Neil is right to say that the Spanish agency is almost certainly acting in good faith - even if it is asking for unnecessary information. Nobody who wanted to collect identities for fraudulent purposes would go about it that way. Fortunately, identity theft is not a common problem here in Spain.

Jessica's suggestion of offering a driver identification number is cute and may well work.


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Vikki Leung  Identity Verified
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Yes, but... Sep 21, 2010


John Rawlins wrote:

I feel that Neil is right to say that the Spanish agency is almost certainly acting in good faith - even if it is asking for unnecessary information. Nobody who wanted to collect identities for fraudulent purposes would go about it that way. Fortunately, identity theft is not a common problem here in Spain.



I would also consider the possibility of hackers into the agent's server, for example. Not one of my agents, but one of the merchants of which I am a regular client, recently told me they got hacked, with some lower-risk personal details stolen. It gives me peace of mind to know that I don't have too much sensitive personal information sitting in somebody's database that has an unknown level of security.


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John Fossey  Identity Verified
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Agree with Driver's License Sep 21, 2010

I work for quite a few Spanish companies and have never been asked for my ID number. I have been required to put THEIR tax number (VAT) on the Invoice.

The driver's license sounds like a good idea. It doesn't give them access to any other information - drivers license records are confidential in Canada and only the police have access to them.


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Meezermex
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Driver's License number would be best Oct 21, 2010

I understand your desire to keep your SIN to yourself. It does not seem necessary for them to have it. You pay your own taxes here in Canada after all.

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islander1974
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DL Oct 22, 2010

In the end, I decided to give them something to chew on by providing my driver's license number. They appear satisfied with it for now.

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Neil Coffey  Identity Verified
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Give them a random number...? Oct 22, 2010

If they just require "a number", then rather than giving them your driving licence number, you could always just give them a random number.

A random number would not provide any authority on your tax situation. Just like your driving licence number...


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