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Thread poster: Unakit
Unakit
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Oct 28, 2008

Hello all,

I am a third-year student of languages. Currently, I am about to start my dissertation on untranslatable words from German and Polish to English.

Could you help me, please. There is not enough data for me to write 7 000 words.

I have serched everywhere possible and have only 20 of each.

I want to prove that there are untranslatable words. Obviously all can be describe in few words or sentences. However, lots of than do not have an equivalent, e.g. Ohrwurm, Drachenfutter, fucha or kilkanascie.

Help me, please.

Thanx in advance.

Kat

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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Gemütlichkeit, Schadenfreude, Katzenjammer Oct 28, 2008

Three more German words to add to your list.



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LegalTransform  Identity Verified
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Untranslatability Oct 28, 2008

There is a lot of stuff about German here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untranslatability


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Unakit
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thank you Oct 28, 2008

Yes, i know about Schadenfreund. Could you tell what Katzerjammer and Gemutlichkeit mean. I know the word - gemutlich, but it is an adjective and can be translated as cosy or relaxed, as far as I know.

Thank you in advance.

Kat


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Zeitgeist, Bundestag, Rechthaberei Oct 28, 2008

Three more.

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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Betroffenheit, Problemfilm Oct 28, 2008

Two more.



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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Karzer, Blitzkrieg, magenstark Oct 28, 2008

Okay, now I have to go back to work.



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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Feuerzangenbowle Oct 28, 2008

Must work now..



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LegalTransform  Identity Verified
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Fingerspitzengefühl Oct 29, 2008

Another one...

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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Writing a dissertation about foreign languages Oct 29, 2008

It is mandatory and crucial that you show some respect to those languages that you are writing about without garbling, mocking or distorting them.

There is no such thing as "Schadenfreund".

There is no such thing as "Katzerjammer".

Thank you!

The adjective "gemütlich" and the noun "Gemütlichkeit" are two very different stories. Some googling will help.



Unakit wrote:

Yes, i know about Schadenfreund. Could you tell what Katzerjammer and Gemutlichkeit mean. I know the word - gemutlich, but it is an adjective and can be translated as cosy or relaxed, as far as I know.


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Stuart Dowell  Identity Verified
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Who is not showing respect? Oct 29, 2008

Nicole Schnell wrote:

It is mandatory and crucial that you show some respect to those languages that you are writing about without garbling, mocking or distorting them.



Hi Nicole, why did you say that? Who is not showing respect here. I don't understand.

Stuart


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Prinzipienreiter Oct 29, 2008

Prinzipienreiter.

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Spencer Allman
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schadenfreude Oct 29, 2008

I don't really know German - have I spelyt it right? - but this word is often proposed as one that has no equivalent in English

But surely it does:

glee is the noun

and gloat is the verb

I know this is not what everyone is talking about here - but I wonder if there are any comments


spencer


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Zeitgeist, Weltschmerz, Gesamtkunstwerk Oct 29, 2008

Three more.

@Stuart:

I was referring to the words quoted that were misspelled beyond recognition.



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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Schultüte, hitzefrei Oct 29, 2008

Two more



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