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Noni Gilbert
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By now I presume a lot of translators will have heard about this or encountered it.
I read about it in the press since I am not a frequent user, although the project I am currently working on is forcing me to do a fair amount of internet research.
I'd be interested to read about other translators' reactions.
Noni
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Tomás Cano Binder, CT 
Spain
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| | Can colleagues from US please elaborate? | Jan 18 |
I don't quite understand what is going on and why the bill in question has such a potential impact on on-line liberties in the US. Can our colleagues in the US elaborate on what this is all about?
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Laurent KRAULAND
France
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Woodstock
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Christine Andersen
Denmark
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| | Thanks, Laurent, for the reference | Jan 18 |
I also saw a notice on Wikipedia last night, with a warning 13 hours before the 'blackout'. While I don't understand all the details, I wondered immediately what it means for a site like this?
ProZ.com is, thank goodnes, monitored by moderators. While we may occasionally feel they err a fair way on the side of caution, this does make the site a lot more pleasant and relevant than some sites where personal comments and straying off topic in discussions are just the general disorder of the day.
Would users and members be able to go on contributing to the help forums, KudoZ and the Wiki as usual?
Luckily for me, I'm not using Wikipedia much this week, but for some jobs I really do find it useful, not to mention all the other sites that might be affected.
I will ask staff to comment.
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Christine Andersen
Denmark
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| | This site will not be affected | Jan 18 |
It took staff just 19 minutes to tell me that they do not expect this site to be affected.
Thanks, Lucia, for that!
Still, I do hope other ways are found of solving the problems without hindering legitimate free use of the Internet.
OK, no more politics here from me!
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Slawomir Nieciecki
Poland
Local time: 04:15
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push refresh button and immediately push stop button before black screen
viola! wikipedia unaffected
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Neil Coffey
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:15
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| | To access wikipedia... | Jan 18 |
You can also:
- Use the smartphone/tablet app version.
- Disable Javascript
Also take a few minutes to read about why they're doing this: if you want the Internet to exist in a few years' time, this is quite important.
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Noni Gilbert
Spain
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TOPIC STARTER | | Thanks for your comments so far | Jan 18 |
I was hoping that this might lead to clarification and debate on the policies being protested about, but I see (and understand why) we are very wary of discussing anything with even the faintest whiff of politics here.
What I wasn't expecting was to find out how to "get round" the blackout - sort of boycotting their boycott. Not my intention at all. It's a free service after all, and if the service is suspended I think we should listen to the reasons if we find this inconvenient, regardless of whether we agree with them. I have noticed how many people have commented in other (unrelated) forum discussions on how useful they find Wikipedia, so I am surprised not to be hearing more comments about the inconvenience of the lack of service.
Noni
Edited for PS: Neil, the fact that my comment is coming in directly after yours might suggest that I am commenting on your information about "getting round" the blackout, which is not actually the case, since you also encourage us to read the info. Sorry about that ambiguity. And in fact several others on the parallel thread which has arisen have said we should be looking at the reasons for the blackout.
[Edited at 2012-01-18 16:20 GMT]
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B D Finch
France
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I certainly understand that ProZ needs to prevent party politics from intruding upon the website and causing destructive arguments and bad feeling among members. However, does that mean that we should just shut up while important freedoms that, among other things, enable us to work efficiently and accurately are under threat?
KudoZ, to take the most obvious example here, is threatened by this legislation too and so ProZ could itself become vulnerable to the provisions of legislation that impacts freedom of exchange of information.
Those who fail to defend their liberties often end up losing them.
[Edited at 2012-01-18 16:41 GMT]
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Thomas Rebotier
United States
Local time: 19:15
Member (2010)
English to French
| | Use the "Cache" version from Google | Jan 18 |
My current project requries constant research so missing Wiki would be annoying... except that all pages are cached in Google, just click to the right of a result for further options in the Google list and choose "cache"...
And I agree with Wiki, Craigslist and all the blackout is a good way to make people realize what will happen if SOPA goes through. Hollywood has always been full of greedy dirtbags, they'd sell their soul for a buck and now trying to sell ours. Back off, Satan!
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Neil Coffey
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:15
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| | Wikipedia are open about how to get round the blackout | Jan 18 |
aceavila - Noni wrote:
which is not actually the case, since you also encourage us to read the info. Sorry about that ambiguity. And in fact several others on the parallel thread which has arisen have said we should be looking at the reasons for the blackout.
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The only thing I'd add is that how to access Wikipedia while the blackout is in place isn't a secret or something Wikipedia disprove of -- they make it quite clear that their aim is not to prevent people from accessing Wikipedia and openly state how to access it while today's blackout is in place.
Obviously, they do *also* want people to become aware of the issue.
If you have more time to spare, there's an interesting debate on the SOPA legislation here: http://www.openculture.com/2012/01/what-is-wrong-with-sopa.html
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