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A new tool: Google Desktop Search
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Hynek Palatin  Identity Verified
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Oct 15, 2004

"Search your own computer."
http://desktop.google.com/

Part of the official description:

Google Desktop Search is a desktop search application that provides full text search over your email, computer files, chats, and the web pages you've viewed. By making your computer searchable, Google Desktop Search puts your information easily within your reach and frees you from having to manually organize your files, emails, and bookmarks.

I haven't installed the tool yet, but it looks promising. Be careful though, it's still in the beta stage and there might be some privacy issues.

Please share your experience if you are already using it.


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Desktop search galore Oct 15, 2004

I have just downloaded and used very happily Copernic Desktop search. Incredibly fast and thorough. A marvel for people like me, with files in too many places. A great gain of time and worry. I have no doubt that Google will at least equal it in speed, reliability and ease of use.
You must of course realise though that all the insides of your computer are there for all to see, although the settings on Copernic allow some sifting.

Claudette Hepburn


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xxxBrandis
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Thank you for the tip Oct 15, 2004

Hynek Palatin wrote:

"Search your own computer."
http://desktop.google.com/

Part of the official description:

Google Desktop Search is a desktop search application that provides full text search over your email, computer files, chats, and the web pages you've viewed. By making your computer searchable, Google Desktop Search puts your information easily within your reach and frees you from having to manually organize your files, emails, and bookmarks.

I haven't installed the tool yet, but it looks promising. Be careful though, it's still in the beta stage and there might be some privacy issues.

Please share your experience if you are already using it.
It is indeed grand.
Rgds,
Brandis


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Jeff Allen  Identity Verified
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bug in search function of Windows XP Home Edition Oct 15, 2004

If any of the listers have been using the search function in Windows XP Home Edition, please note that I found a bug in it about a year ago (at least in the French localized version). The function for searching inside of files does not dentify all occurrences of a word that is searched on. I had a huge set of files in a directory and was doing a search on a word that was expected to be very frequent in many of the files; the XP search function only gave a few hits, which seemed very bizarre to me. So I opened up the DOS prompt and did the same query with the FIND command, which in turn came up with tons of hits on the same word.
I have not found the same problem with Win2000.

At the office, we installed a search engine on the intranet that can do a search on everything, or can do searches only subparts that can be selected in a pulldown list (such as mail, docs, etc). I think it is a free search engine as well. It can run inside the firewall without exposing the content to the extranet, which is what this new Google tool seems to be doing.
I'll investigate on what tool we use at the office and let the listers know what it is.

Jeff

Hynek Palatin wrote:
"Search your own computer."
http://desktop.google.com/
Google Desktop Search is a desktop search application that provides full text search over your email, computer files, chats, and the web pages you've viewed. By making your computer searchable, Google Desktop Search puts your information easily within your reach and frees you from having to manually organize your files, emails, and bookmarks.


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Jaroslav Tomiczek  Identity Verified
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beta Oct 15, 2004

Looked promising, but refuses to work on a system with NOD32 and NetLimiter installed. I have to wait till they fix the bug.
Jaro


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dieter haake  Identity Verified
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great, Oct 16, 2004

Thanks

didi

[Edited at 2004-10-16 09:16]


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
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For all to see? Oct 16, 2004

Claudette Hepburn wrote:

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You must of course realise though that all the insides of your computer are there for all to see,...

Claudette Hepburn


Why?
The program only make a index of all contents, like other programs, (well this is for free). Or am I missing something?

The problem creating this index is time, I have 2 x 160 GB, I think it must take over one day. Some experience?
Rgds

Toledo

[Edited at 2004-10-16 21:13]


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Desktop searches Oct 16, 2004

Toledo wrote:

Claudette Hepburn wrote:

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You must of course realise though that all the insides of your computer are there for all to see,...

Claudette Hepburn


Why?
The program only make a index of all contents, like other programs, (well this is for free). Or am I missing something?

The problem creating this index is time, I have 2 x 160 GB, I think it must take over one day. Some experience?
Rgds

Toledo

[Edited at 2004-10-16 21:13]


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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Seems to work Oct 17, 2004

I installed the Google Desktop search yesterday and was surprised to find it only 419 files (status report). But when I now search for some words it seems to find the occurencies all right.
I wonder if there is a possibility to search also through CD-ROMs shelved, probably most of us have more files "on the bookshelf" or in show-boxes than on the hard disk. Anyone tried Google on that?

Regards
Heinrich


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Piotr Sawiec  Identity Verified
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Not necessarily Google Oct 17, 2004

Hi
I do not have experience with Google Desktop Search. For some time though I have been using Copernicus Desktop Search. Its capability of finding single words or expressions is exceptional. So far it never failed. First it creates an index file, which is very large, depending on the number of files you want to index, mine is for example 200 MB. It adds words to the index whenever you create or import a new document. You can decide what files are to be searched, in which folders, discs, etc. They can include e-mails, attachments, so virtually all types of files. The program works in background and occupies some resources, but its potential is worth it.


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Gilberto Lacchia  Identity Verified
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Copernic vs Google Oct 17, 2004

blondas wrote:

The program works in background and occupies some resources, but its potential is worth it.


Yes, I agree: I have been using Copernic for some time and I am very satisfied of it. I installed Google DS on a second computer but I could not evaluate it thoroughly. The first impression is positive, and it does not seem to use so many resources as Copernic; a downside is that at present it does not index PDF files (I have tons of them on my computer).

For the moment I will keep Copernic.

Gilberto


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Lesley Clayton
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Brilliant Oct 17, 2004

Just what I need. Thanks a lot.

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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
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before installing... Oct 17, 2004

...take a look at:
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/000264.html

Rgds


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Hepburn  Identity Verified
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Google and privacy concerns Oct 18, 2004

Yes, it is a bit chilling. I have now installed Google desksearch too and I can't help feeling their teeth are getting rather long :"C'est pour mieux te manger, mon enfant..."

what do you make of that?

*** Google
Integration
Display relevant searches on Google. Your personal results are private from Google:

Show Desktop Search results on Google Web Search result pages***

It is up to you (if you first scrutinize the screen well to find out how to set your preferences)to decide. But that means that whoever does not set it to *Not show* can have the findings displayed in Google search? For the general public? Am I getting it right?

I am a Google friend, but having second thoughts now.

Claudette


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Hynek Palatin  Identity Verified
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Privacy Oct 18, 2004

Claudette Hepburn wrote:

It is up to you (if you first scrutinize the screen well to find out how to set your preferences)to decide. But that means that whoever does not set it to *Not show* can have the findings displayed in Google search? For the general public? Am I getting it right?


Not for general public, just for you.

As for Toledo's link - Google Desktop doesn't give access to any information that wouldn't be accessible anyway. I wouldn't expect such an article in a computer magazine.


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