Opinions on the new Dietl-Lorenz Dictionary
Thread poster: xxxprozuser
xxxprozuser
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Dec 23, 2005

Hello Mates,

I guess most of us use this dictionary and am told its a good one. All these days it wasnt available as one of those two guys is no more and the other one does the editing job as a Nebenberuf. However at last this dictionary is now on sale. We really had to wait for a hell of a long time for it to come out. I received a mail the other day from Acolada saying that it is finally on sale.
Can some of you tell me if I should really go for this dictionary?? Would that be a good buy??
Second que that I have is that there are two prices of this dictionary quoted by two different publishers. The Kater-Verlag website says that it costs EUR 398 while Acolada quoteds EUR 298, both inclusive MwSt. That sounds wierd.
Can someone let me know what that is and correct me if I am mistaken.

Thanks so much

Regards to all!


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Textklick  Identity Verified
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Early days Dec 25, 2005

prozuser wrote:

Hello Mates,

I guess most of us use this dictionary and am told its a good one. However at last this dictionary is now on sale. We really had to wait for a hell of a long time for it to come out. I received a mail the other day from Acolada saying that it is finally on sale.
Can some of you tell me if I should really go for this dictionary?? Would that be a good buy??

Can someone let me know what that is and correct me if I am mistaken.

Thanks so much

Regards to all!


DL has been variously discussed and I think you will find majority agreement on its excellence. However, a word of advice - enter 'Dietl Lorenz' in the 'Search' box, and check 'Forums'. I have the general impression that consensus opinion suggests one legal dico is insufficient.

Also consider the fact that it is a bit early to solicit opinions on the latest release.

As to your questions on price I would tend to go for the cheaper offer

HTH
Chris


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Derek Gill Franßen  Identity Verified
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The new Dietl-Lorenz Dictionary... Dec 27, 2005

I want to test it out before I buy it for myself, so I'll be ordering it for my department at the university at the beginning of 2006 (new funds) and I'll report back when I've had a chance to use and compare it.

As far as I know (which is what the lady at the campus book store told me), the price of EUR 398 is for the books and the CD. The not-quite-as-expensive-but-still-ridiculous price of EUR 298 is just for the books; that's one expensive CD!

To tell you the truth (and I have several legal dictionaries), I tend to use Romain/Thielecke/Byrd most often simply because it is handier (IMHO).

Increasingly, I also like to use mono-lingual dictionaries, i.e. Black's Law Dictionary, Creifelds etc.

Happy Holidays!

[Edited at 2005-12-27 01:52]


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Andrew Rennison
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Which version of Black's? Sep 23, 2006

Hi Derek,

I realise this thread was done and dusted some time ago, but as I'm currently looking for a monolingual English law dictionary I thought it best to pick up this thread.
You recommend Black's law dictionary - I've heard from several sources that this is THE one to get (especially for US law).

My question is - which version do you have? And which version would you recommend for someone currently looking for such a dictionary? Amazon.de has quite a good selection...

Thanks for your advice.

Andrew Rennison.


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Derek Gill Franßen  Identity Verified
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Black's Law Dictionary Sep 23, 2006

andyrennie wrote:

Hi Derek,

I realise this thread was done and dusted some time ago, but as I'm currently looking for a monolingual English law dictionary I thought it best to pick up this thread.
You recommend Black's law dictionary - I've heard from several sources that this is THE one to get (especially for US law).

My question is - which version do you have? And which version would you recommend for someone currently looking for such a dictionary? Amazon.de has quite a good selection...

Thanks for your advice.

Andrew Rennison.


Hi Andrew,

Great use of the forum search function. Yes, I did and still can—highly—recommend Black's Law Dictionary, by Bryan A. Garner. It is an excellent reference book and, as Wikipedia puts it, “the definitive law dictionary for the law of the United States.” (Cf. Black's Law Dictionary, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black's_Law_Dictionary&oldid=74755687 - last visited September 23, 2006.)

In fact, I have two copies: At home I have the very handy Second Pocket Edition (ISBN 0-314-25791-8) and at work I have the bulky hard-back version—I think it's the Eighth Edition, but I may be mistaken (ISBN 0-314-15199-0).

It always receives rave reviews, as evidenced, for example, by the following: “How can anyone even tangentially involved in the legal arena dispute the preeminence of Black's Law Dictionary? It simply has no peer. If you are unable to effortlessly recite definitions used in lay english, you don't have a prayer with legal words, phrases, and terminology.” (Cf. the reviews on the Second Pocket Edition on Amazon: http://www.amazon.de/Black-Law-Dictionary-Bryan-Garner/dp/0314257918 - last visited September 23, 2006.)

At the risk of sounding like a spokesperson for West Law School, they are not lying when they claim that it is “[c]ited more than any other legal dictionary and recommended by law faculty.” (Cf. West-Black's Law Dictionary, 8th, http://west.thomson.com/product/40231642/product.asp - last visited September 23, 2006.)

It is the standard—and rightfully so. I doubt you'll regret the purchase, if you do choose to buy it.

Best regards,
Derek

[Edited at 2006-09-23 15:18]


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