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How to find "reversed concordence"
Thread poster: Heinrich Pesch

Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
Finland
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Feb 21, 2006

Hello users of Wordfast!

My problem is often, that I encounter a word or a phrase in the source language A, which I remember to have written sometimes in the target A when translating from language B. But now I simply cannot remember what the word was in language B. And when I highlight the word in the source segment of language A the concordence search looks only for occurences of the word in the source segments of my TMs.
Do I have to reverse my TM or is there an easier method to find the occurences in the target segments of my TMs?
Hope you understood what I mean. The problem should be common to all who translate in both directions.

Regards
Heinrich


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Riccardo Schiaffino  Identity Verified
United States
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Export your memory to a txt file Feb 21, 2006

Same problem in Trados.

What I do is to export my memory to a .txt file, and search in it using Funduc's Search and Replace.


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Milan Condak  Identity Verified
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English to Czech
Using of Reference Search Feb 21, 2006

Heinrich Pesch wrote:

And when I highlight the word in the source segment of language A the concordence search looks only for occurences of the word in the source segments of my TMs.

Regards
Heinrich


There are no "concordence" in Wordfast version 5 and later.

Question is about using Context Search (Ctrl+Alt+C).

You can use for search in any TXT, HTML, CSV feature Reference Search (Ctrl+Alt+N). You will get results from TMs, from WF Glos, from downloaded HTML in which are mono-, bi-, and multi- language glossary.

You can use for searching any third party tool, too. In case you have indexed all words on your HDD. I use Google Desktop.

Milan


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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But how to get reference search to work? Feb 21, 2006

Milan Condak wrote:


There are no "concordence" in Wordfast version 5 and later.

Question is about using Context Search (Ctrl+Alt+C).

You can use for search in any TXT, HTML, CSV feature Reference Search (Ctrl+Alt+N). You will get results from TMs, from WF Glos, from downloaded HTML in which are mono-, bi-, and multi- language glossary.

You can use for searching any third party tool, too. In case you have indexed all words on your HDD. I use Google Desktop.

Milan


Thanks for the correction, Milan.
What I meant is Context search. I just wonder how to get the Reference search work. I defined for Reference search one TM in a folder where all my TMs resist, but reference search does nothing when I click on the icon.
Of course I get results with Google Desktop.

Regards
Heinrich


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Milan Condak  Identity Verified
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Look at text in manual Feb 21, 2006



Thanks for the correction, Milan.
What I meant is Context search. I just wonder how to get the Reference search work. I defined for Reference search one TM in a folder where all my TMs resist, but reference search does nothing when I click on the icon.
Of course I get results with Google Desktop.

Regards
Heinrich


Manual:
"Wordfast will run the reference search on all files present in the folder(s) specified for reference material. As with Context search, it is possible to use the Escape key (or the same shortcut, i.e. Ctrl+Alt+N) to cancel a search.

Use the Insert (or +) key or the Delete (or -) key to add or remove folder(s) where the "raw material" for Reference search is located."

Information in last sentence are very important. You can mark files you want search in.

Milan


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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Yes, the file was not checked Feb 21, 2006

I had entered the location, but not checked the checkbox. Now it works. Thanks for the hint, Milan!
Regards
Heinrich


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Diplom-Übersetzerin Elisabeth John  Identity Verified
Germany
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Activate "ContextSearch=All" in PB Feb 21, 2006

Hi Heinrich,

the easiest solution is to activate ContextSearch=All in Pandora's Box. This will force Wordfast to search all segments (source and target), no matter where you select a term.

Cheers,
Lisa


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Marek Buchtel  Identity Verified
Czech Republic
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ContextSearch in Pandora Box Feb 21, 2006

Heinrich Pesch wrote:

Do I have to reverse my TM or is there an easier method to find the occurences in the target segments of my TMs?


If you want to find occurences from source segments of text in the target segments of TM, or vice versa, you can use the PB command ContextSearch
(quoting from WF manual):

ContextSearch=All will force Wordfast to search all segments (source and target), regardless of where you selected a term.
ContextSearch=Source will force Wordfast to search only source segments of the TM.
ContextSearch=Target will force Wordfast to search only target segments of the TM.


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