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English translation: Cadastre/land survey register

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German term or phrase:Kataster
English translation:Cadastre/land survey register
Entered by: Jon Fedler
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12:49 May 15, 2007
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Real Estate
German term or phrase: Kataster
In the quote below it is not clear to me what the difference is between"Kataster" , Grundregister and "Grundbuch" (and what exactly is registered where).

Points on a "best explanation" basis

Description of a property that is part of a Swiss divorce settlement:
"Das heute im Grundbuch ....eingetragene Grundstück.....in xxxxx, Grundregister Blatt yyyy, Kataster Nr.1599, Plan 8, Wohnhaus mit Anbau, Vers.-Nr. 957 mit 309 qm. *Hausumschwung* wird mit wirkung ....übertragen."
Jon Fedler
Local time: 16:41
Cadastre/land survey register
Explanation:
The "kataster" (cadastre in French, and a word acceptable in English) is as far as I know, a register of land drawn up from land surveys. It is used as the basis for the separate land registry, which rgegisters title to land in the "grundbuch".
It is a concept that we don't have in common law countries, where there is usually one one land registry.

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Note added at 20 mins (2007-05-15 13:09:43 GMT)
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The cadastre and the land register are SEPARATE registries. The cadastre mainly records the surveying and technical aspects of the land and the land register records legal ownership. The terms are not interchangeable.

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Note added at 41 mins (2007-05-15 13:30:30 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadastre
A cadastre (also spelled cadaster) is a register of the real property of a country, with details of the area, the owners and the value.

The word came into English by way of French and Italian, variously attributed to the Late Latin capitastrum, a register of the poll tax, and the Greek κατάστιχον [katastikhon], a list or register, from κατά στίχον [kata stikhon], literally, "down the line" in the sense of "line by line."

It gives rise to the adjective cadastral, used in surveying and public administration, and referring to the division of land into units for surveying, taxation or administrative purposes. Cadastral units may include counties, parishes, ridings, hundreds, or blocks.

Accurate cadastral surveys help prevent disputes and lawsuits between landowners and allow for reliable land valuation. An example from England is the Domesday Book. However, the term is sometimes used loosely of the Ordnance Survey of the United Kingdom where it is on a sufficiently large scale to show the area of every field or piece of ground. Cadastral Surveys can also be employed to track long-term changes over time for geological or ecological studies. In the United States, cadastral surveys are a common element used to manage large tracts of Endangered Species habitat, such as the Spotted Owl of the Northwestern US.


Cadastral map of village Pielnia, 1852, Galicia, PolandA cadastral map is a map showing boundaries and ownership of land. Some cadastral maps show, as well as boundaries and ownership details, such details as Survey District Names, Block Numbers (within each Survey District), Certificate of Title numbers, positions of existing older structures, government described runhold section and/or lot numbers and their respective areas, adjoining and adjacent street names, selected boundary dimensions and references to prior founding maps.

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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:41
Grading comment
Highly informative. Thanks AT
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2Cadastre/land survey register
AllegroTrans
3 +3cadastre
Kim Metzger
5 +1cadaster
Stephen Sadie
4 -1Index Map {Search} No.
Tom Thumb


Discussion entries: 2





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
cadaster


Explanation:
this is the term

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Note added at 5 mins (2007-05-15 12:54:31 GMT)
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sorry mis-spelt: cadastre, also knoiwn as land register or land registry (see langenscheidt bauwesen)

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Note added at 6 mins (2007-05-15 12:55:21 GMT)
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Kataster m BAURECHT land register (BrE)


Stephen Sadie
Germany
Local time: 15:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: It is not the same as the Land Registry, it is a separately maintained register
49 mins

agree  KARIN ISBELL
2 hrs
  -> thanks karin
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
cadastre


Explanation:
My real estate dico gives cadastre and land register for Kataster und Grundbuch.

cadastre - A record of interests in land, including both the nature and extent of interests. Usually this means maps and other descriptions of land parcels as well as the identification of who owns certain legal rights to the land. Cadastral information often includes other descriptive information about land parcels.1

http://www.sli.unimelb.edu.au/gisweb/glossary.htm#l

Connection between the land register and land cadastre
30. March 05 / Veebmeister
The land register maintained in courts is a legal register – making entries in the register creates, amends or extinguishes real rights.
The land cadastre maintained in the Land Board is a technical register – it reflects the data regarding land surveying, the natural status, value and actual use of land. Cadastral reference data is also presented in the form of cadastral maps.
Both registers exchange data. The land register also contains cadastral reference data – area, address, intended purpose of land, etc. In the land register such data has only an informative meaning. If the cadastral data changes, relevant corrections shall be made in the land register on the basis of a notice of the Land Board.

http://www.just.ee/7881



    Wörterbuch Immobilien-Wirtschaft, Schulte, Lee, Paul, Gier, Evans
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 08:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 272

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michael Kucharski: Grundbuch = legal aspects; Kataster = technical aspects
5 mins

neutral  AllegroTrans: identical answer to one I posted 5 mins previously!
9 mins
  -> Identical? The asker is looking for the best explanation.

agree  Stephen Sadie: nicely explained and naturally absolutely correct
1 hr

agree  xxxDr.G.MD: Land title office in Canada
2 days13 hrs
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Cadastre/land survey register


Explanation:
The "kataster" (cadastre in French, and a word acceptable in English) is as far as I know, a register of land drawn up from land surveys. It is used as the basis for the separate land registry, which rgegisters title to land in the "grundbuch".
It is a concept that we don't have in common law countries, where there is usually one one land registry.

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Note added at 20 mins (2007-05-15 13:09:43 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

The cadastre and the land register are SEPARATE registries. The cadastre mainly records the surveying and technical aspects of the land and the land register records legal ownership. The terms are not interchangeable.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 41 mins (2007-05-15 13:30:30 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadastre
A cadastre (also spelled cadaster) is a register of the real property of a country, with details of the area, the owners and the value.

The word came into English by way of French and Italian, variously attributed to the Late Latin capitastrum, a register of the poll tax, and the Greek κατάστιχον [katastikhon], a list or register, from κατά στίχον [kata stikhon], literally, "down the line" in the sense of "line by line."

It gives rise to the adjective cadastral, used in surveying and public administration, and referring to the division of land into units for surveying, taxation or administrative purposes. Cadastral units may include counties, parishes, ridings, hundreds, or blocks.

Accurate cadastral surveys help prevent disputes and lawsuits between landowners and allow for reliable land valuation. An example from England is the Domesday Book. However, the term is sometimes used loosely of the Ordnance Survey of the United Kingdom where it is on a sufficiently large scale to show the area of every field or piece of ground. Cadastral Surveys can also be employed to track long-term changes over time for geological or ecological studies. In the United States, cadastral surveys are a common element used to manage large tracts of Endangered Species habitat, such as the Spotted Owl of the Northwestern US.


Cadastral map of village Pielnia, 1852, Galicia, PolandA cadastral map is a map showing boundaries and ownership of land. Some cadastral maps show, as well as boundaries and ownership details, such details as Survey District Names, Block Numbers (within each Survey District), Certificate of Title numbers, positions of existing older structures, government described runhold section and/or lot numbers and their respective areas, adjoining and adjacent street names, selected boundary dimensions and references to prior founding maps.



AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 60
Grading comment
Highly informative. Thanks AT

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michael Kucharski
9 mins
  -> thanks

agree  Ingeborg Gowans
2 hrs
  -> thanks
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1 day5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Kataster Nr.
Index Map {Search} No.


Explanation:
Based on land survey, both in German-speaking countries and the UK.

UK Land Law textbooks actually refer to Continental Europ. 'cadastral systems'.

It also helps to add the Nr. part of the question, as this can change the answer.

Grundregister - Land Registry (Office)

Grundbuch - Land Register (as a book or part of a Land Cert.)

Example sentence(s):
  • Under the new Act there will be more types of registrable estate on the Index Map. An index map search result will tell you whether there is a registered ...

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/?sp=gloss/term&id=1520256
    Reference: http://www.landreg.gov.uk/kb/Default.asp?ToDo=view&questId=5...
Tom Thumb
Local time: 15:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 177

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  AllegroTrans: The index number is the "Parzelle Nr." - I have a cadastral entry in front of me as I type this! The "cadastre" is much more than a mere "index" map, containing survey and technical info. as well as a land parcel number
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