non arrêt ascenseur

English translation: (floor) bypass

18:48 Jun 17, 2008
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Construction / Civil Engineering / Fire Safety systems (CMSI / SMSI)
French term or phrase: non arrêt ascenseur
I know exactly what this means: it is the automatic function of a sophisticated fire safety system (CMSI) in a large public building which ensures that the lifts won't stop at a floor where a fire has been detected. But I'm blowed if I can find what (if anything!) this is called in EN — and I can't even think of what to try searching on. I did try things like "lift stop barring", but to no avail.

Here's the list item in which it appears:

"...des fonctions de mise en sécurité : Evacuation, Compartimentage, Désenfumage, Non Arrêt Ascenseur"
Tony M
France
Local time: 10:49
English translation:(floor) bypass
Explanation:
I came across the word "bypass" in the document below; don't know if it's of any use, but you can be the judge of that!

Typical functions lift systems can perform:
(a) Carry their rated loads at contract speed
(b) Run from bottom to top floor in a prescribed time
(c) Communicate with the outside for assistance
(d) Provide emergency lighting in car in the event of power failure
**(e) Bypass a floor if fully loaded**
http://www.mfb.vic.gov.au/asset/PDF/GL-31 v1 r16.08.07.pdf

It doesn't mention anything to do with bypassing a floor in the event of a fire, as in your case, but nevertheless, maybe you could use some phrase or other including the word "bypass".

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Actually, here's one reference (American) that does use "bypass" in connection with floors affected by fire:

Automatic devices should be installed to allow elevator cars to bypass all fire-involved floors. Under no circumstances should elevators be stopped at the fire-involved floors.
https://www.urmia.org/library/docs/EmergResponse1and2.pdf
Selected response from:

Peter Shortall
United Kingdom
Grading comment
Thanks, Peter! In fact, it was your suggestion of 'bypass' that allowed me to get past the mental block of 'not stopping' and enabled me to come up with an invented term that would fit OK into my doc.
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Summary of answers provided
2 +3(floor) bypass
Peter Shortall
3 +1Elevator in Phase 2 Fire Safety Mode
Dave 72
3Elevator/Lift Non-Stop
Dave 72
2emergency recall
Irene McClure
2non-stop travel (to recall floor)
Euqinimod (X)
2skip-stop
Lori Cirefice
1 -1dummy elevator
Speakering (X)


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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Non Arrêt Ascenseur
Elevator/Lift Non-Stop


Explanation:
I know it sounds unlikely, and I'm still not sure, but have a look at the following link: http://www.lonsdaleelevator.com/safety_fire.html
It is also mentioned elsewhere.

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Note added at 41 mins (2008-06-17 19:29:32 GMT)
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It does seem a bit literal, but....

Dave 72
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:49
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Dave, but that link appears to talk about fire department control of lifts such that they will return non-stop to the ground floor (etc.). The particualr system here allows them to still stop at any floors other than those where a fire had been declared.

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Non Arrêt Ascenseur
emergency recall


Explanation:

I've found the term 'Emergency Recall system' used on quite a few UK and US sites...

Here is a link from a UK lift manufaturer site which gives a list of options for lifts:

Options

Door close pushbutton
VIP control
Automatic heavy Up/Down program
Floor position indicaton
Door hold button
Arrival gongs car and landing
Emergency recall
Trip counter

http://www.lionliftcontrols.co.uk/products.htm

There seem to be lots more hits for US sites with this term, ntoably in analysis of the WTC evacuation. In this doc about it, it states that "Local Law 5 (New York 1973) requires that elevators be provided with an emergency recall system. This
requirement was incorporated subsequently into the American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME)
A17.1, Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators, which governs elevator design and operation in all
present U.S. building codes"
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1-7.pdf


And again,
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3737/is_200603/ai_n1...

"Since 1973, ASME A17.1 Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators,12,13 has required that elevators travelling 25 feet (7.2 meters) or more be equipped with a feature that, when initiated, will return the elevator to the main floor or another designated floor of the building. This feature is commonly referred to as Phase I Emergency Recall Operation and can be started with a key-switch or by a fire alarm initiating device. "

HTH

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-06-17 19:53:33 GMT)
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Sorry Tony - I've just seen your note to Dave - it's probably valid for the links I've given too...!

Irene McClure
Local time: 10:49
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Non Arrêt Ascenseur
non-stop travel (to recall floor)


Explanation:
Just an idea inspired from browsing the web reference below.


    Reference: http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~cs445/Fall2007/Project/S...
Euqinimod (X)
Local time: 10:49
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 47
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Non Arrêt Ascenseur
Elevator in Phase 2 Fire Safety Mode


Explanation:
Hi Tony- this might be worth googling. "Phase 2" pops up a lot

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-06-17 20:34:14 GMT)
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Unless it's a region-specific term of course

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-06-17 20:36:20 GMT)
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Or "Phase 2 Firefighters Mode", which also appears a lot

Dave 72
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:49
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cathy McReynolds
5 mins
  -> Thanks, Cathy
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Non Arrêt Ascenseur
skip-stop


Explanation:
I did find this term in relation to elevators, but not in a fire safety context. I do think that "skip" gets the meaning across, so I'll put this up just in case it helps you.

Lori Cirefice
France
Local time: 10:49
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 15
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Non Arrêt Ascenseur
(floor) bypass


Explanation:
I came across the word "bypass" in the document below; don't know if it's of any use, but you can be the judge of that!

Typical functions lift systems can perform:
(a) Carry their rated loads at contract speed
(b) Run from bottom to top floor in a prescribed time
(c) Communicate with the outside for assistance
(d) Provide emergency lighting in car in the event of power failure
**(e) Bypass a floor if fully loaded**
http://www.mfb.vic.gov.au/asset/PDF/GL-31 v1 r16.08.07.pdf

It doesn't mention anything to do with bypassing a floor in the event of a fire, as in your case, but nevertheless, maybe you could use some phrase or other including the word "bypass".

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-06-17 20:41:44 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Actually, here's one reference (American) that does use "bypass" in connection with floors affected by fire:

Automatic devices should be installed to allow elevator cars to bypass all fire-involved floors. Under no circumstances should elevators be stopped at the fire-involved floors.
https://www.urmia.org/library/docs/EmergResponse1and2.pdf


Peter Shortall
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 5
Grading comment
Thanks, Peter! In fact, it was your suggestion of 'bypass' that allowed me to get past the mental block of 'not stopping' and enabled me to come up with an invented term that would fit OK into my doc.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bashiqa: I like this one. Should be worth 8 points, Tony M isn't often stuck!
36 mins
  -> Thanks, though since it's Tony, I've a feeling he'll already have considered this long ago and ruled it out!

agree  Clair Pickworth: interesting!
8 hrs
  -> Thanks, Clair!

agree  raj_gup: I think this is the one that makes the most sense, though it does seem like a weak translation.
2 days 23 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Non Arrêt Ascenseur
dummy elevator


Explanation:
Plaintiff, Herbert Thomas, was injured July 23, 1931, at which time he was eleven years of age, in a dummy elevator, a building approximately 35 or 40 feet high, located on the premises of the defendant at the west edge of the town of Century or Douthat, Okla. Inside the elevator and at the top thereof was a pulley, and at the bottom was another pulley. Around these two pulleys from top to bottom was an elevator belt, to which belt cups were fastened so that the elevator belt turned around with the pulley. There was an opening at the top and another opening at the bottom. The elevator was used to carry or lift chat and z rocks from the mine and conduct the same on a flume to a dump pile away from the mine shaft.


    caselaw.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase. pl?court=ok&vol=/supreme/1935/&invol=29526 - 46k -
Speakering (X)
Native speaker of: Native in MacedonianMacedonian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Emma Paulay: Just how relevant is this to Tony's question?
6 hrs
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