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ca

English translation: Tout ceci est très simple

18:12 Mar 5, 2003
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial
French term or phrase: ca
3 terrains à bâtir faisant partie d'un lotissement - Contenance de 16 a 50 ca, 25 a 20 ca et 27 a 00 ca
Paul Sadur
Local time: 08:20
English translation:Tout ceci est très simple
Explanation:
Les notaires (et le cadastre) utilisent toujours le mot contenance pour donner la surface d'un terrain.

16 a 50 ca, 25 a 20 ca et 27 a 00 ca de terrain :
are = 100 M2
centiare = 1 M
16 ares 50 centiares = 1600+50 = 1650 M2
25 ares 20 centiares= 2500+20 = 2520 M2
27 ares 00 centiare= 2700 M2

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ABBREV a
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TERM are
Eurodicautom


Français
Abrév.
ca centiare n. m.
Anglais
Abrév.
ca centiare

GDT

J'ai regardé sur mon acte de propriété pour vérifier

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But I forgot to translate

Surface xxxx You can keep the abbreviations as they are (as they are the same in english) or you can give the square meters.

Forget about the accent on \"a\", this is not a typo because there is none
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Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen
France
Local time: 15:20
Grading comment
Now, that's what I needed.
Thanks.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +6Tout ceci est très simple
Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen
4 +6centiare
Francis MARC
5 +2ca is the symbol of a unit of measurement
ntouzet (X)
4 +2surface area and ca or centare
Jean-Luc Dumont
5 -2clarification
Jim Collis


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
ca is the symbol of a unit of measurement


Explanation:
ARTFL Project: Webster Dictionary, 1913
New!! Robert Parks and the ARTFL Project are pleased to release our initial implementation of the Wordsmyth English Dictionary-Thesaurus.
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Searching for: "centare"
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Centare (Page: 230)
Cen"tare` (?), n. [F. centiare; centi- (L. centum) + -are.] A measure of area, the hundredth part of an are; one square meter

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ca is the abbreviation

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Quantité que peut contenir quelque chose ; capacité : La contenance d\'un tonneau.
Définition de contenance :
Dixit MR. Larousse :
Quantité que peut contenir quelque chose ; capacité

Vieux. Étendue, superficie : Parc d\'une contenance de trois cents hectares.

Manière qu\'a quelqu\'un de se tenir en telle ou telle circonstance ; attitude : Ne pas savoir quelle contenance prendre.

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Article 49

http://www.atlasimmobilier.com/services/immatriculation3.htm

Pour la perception des droits superficiels d\'immatriculation, la contenance est celle du bornage de l\'immeuble délimité ; pour la fusion et le morcellement, quand il y a transport sur le terrain, la contenance est celle de la parcelle ou des parcelles intéressées. la contenance est toujours forcée de manière à n\'avoir que des ares ou des hectares.



ntouzet (X)
Local time: 15:20
PRO pts in pair: 259

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Narasimhan Raghavan
3 mins
  -> merci
agree  cjohnstone: sounds most convincing though "contenance" remains a mystery to my me
3 mins
  -> please look at my new note
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
centiare


Explanation:
Ref. Harrap's
centiare
[sStjar] nm = one square metre

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1 ca = 10.76 square feet

Francis MARC
Lithuania
Local time: 16:20
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in pair: 6500

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  cjohnstone: oui mais la contenance ?
1 min
agree  PaulaMac (X): Cjohnstone - FYI -contenace = capacity -
4 mins
agree  ntouzet (X): centare et centiare sont synonymes (vieux restes d'école primaire)
12 mins
  -> centare n'existe pas au Larousse (2001)
agree  Brigitte Gendebien
46 mins
agree  Will Matter
1 hr
agree  Jim Collis: centiare is correct
13 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
surface area and ca or centare


Explanation:
surface area - contenance juste un synonyme ancien de superficie ou surface - utlisé en droit et pour le cadastre

in English
Ca - Centare = 1 Sq/m

see below very good tables:
http://www.tankdepot.com/common/conversionchart.htm
Superficie

Expression de la mesure de la surface d'un terrain; synonyme : aire, contenance.
La superficie d'un terrain aux formes non géométriques se calcule en le décomposant en autant de fornes géométriques simples qu'il est nécessaire, et en faisant la somme des superficies de chacune.




Le service du cadastre dépend de l’administration fiscale. Les documents cadastraux sont donc des documents fiscaux dont le rôle principal est d’établir l’assiette des impôts portant sur les biens immobiliers; c’est à dire la taxe d’habitation et la taxe foncière. Les informations apportées par les matrices et par les extraits de plan n’ont donc pas de valeur juridique particulière et supportent tout à fait la preuve contraire, tant concernant la contenance du terrain que concernant les servitudes.La contenance du terrain figurant sur l’acte notarié est celle figurant sur les documents cadastraux. Il est donc possible que la surface réelle soit différente de la contenance indiquée. C’est pourquoi la plupart des actes prévoient une clause d’exonération de la responsabilité du vendeur dans le cas où la superficie réelle du terrain est inférieure à la contenance indiquée dans l’acte, même si l’erreur est supérieure à 5% (un vingtième selon les termes usuels des actes notariés).

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you can render contenance (old expression) by the English (old)word : superficies

and surface/superficie in French by surface area or square area

Jean-Luc Dumont
France
Local time: 15:20
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in pair: 1108

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ntouzet (X)
12 hrs
agree  Tony M: Yes, exactly, well explained!
14 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +6
Tout ceci est très simple


Explanation:
Les notaires (et le cadastre) utilisent toujours le mot contenance pour donner la surface d'un terrain.

16 a 50 ca, 25 a 20 ca et 27 a 00 ca de terrain :
are = 100 M2
centiare = 1 M
16 ares 50 centiares = 1600+50 = 1650 M2
25 ares 20 centiares= 2500+20 = 2520 M2
27 ares 00 centiare= 2700 M2

(1)
ABBREV a
(2)
TERM are
Eurodicautom


Français
Abrév.
ca centiare n. m.
Anglais
Abrév.
ca centiare

GDT

J'ai regardé sur mon acte de propriété pour vérifier

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Note added at 2003-03-05 21:43:04 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

But I forgot to translate

Surface xxxx You can keep the abbreviations as they are (as they are the same in english) or you can give the square meters.

Forget about the accent on \"a\", this is not a typo because there is none

Elisabeth Toda-v.Galen
France
Local time: 15:20
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in pair: 268
Grading comment
Now, that's what I needed.
Thanks.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sarah Walls: I've been confused by the same abbreviations--you're right
22 mins
agree  ntouzet (X)
10 hrs
agree  Tony M: Well put! I personally prefer to convert all into sq. metres, I think it is less confusing for the English reader...
12 hrs
agree  Nancy Bonnefond
13 hrs
agree  Jacqueline McKay (X)
13 hrs
agree  danyce
14 hrs
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
clarification


Explanation:
1 centiare is equal to 10 square metres and not 1 m².
See:
www.engnetglobal.com/tips/convert.asp?catid

Jim Collis
Spain
Local time: 15:20
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 171

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Jean-Luc Dumont: un hectare = 100m² ; 1 centiare/centare = 1 centième d'hectare = 1m²
14 hrs
disagree  Juan Jacob: JLDSF: un peu tard, mais un hectare = 10 000 mètres carrés. Mais un centiare, c'est bien 1 mètre carré.
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