punting(en)

16:03 Oct 1, 2012 

Irrespective of what you call it, the distinction can be useful. There is often a world of difference between BE Dutch and NL Dutch, and being able to indicate which of the two your text is can speed up zooming in on its proper context. Separating en-US + en-GB wouldn't be a bad idea either, come to think of it.

15:35 Oct 1, 2012 

I'm glad you didn't change it to Flemish, as there's no such language in my opinion. Wikipedia says: 'The use of the word "Flemish" to refer to the official language in Flanders is misleading. The only official language in Flanders is Dutch.' Flemish is a dialect, but KudoZ questions are classified by languages, not dialects - just as we don't have separate forums for British and American English.

10:23 Oct 1, 2012 

One of the fun aspects of this job is that we get to spend time finding out where words come from :-). Thanks for these interesting references, Michael!

10:19 Oct 1, 2012 

Indeed, that's what I suggest too. Steven seems to know what he is talking about. I just wanted to provide a little more info on other possible meanings of the term 'punting' for future searchers.

10:09 Oct 1, 2012 

An interesting term ;)
In my context I'll stick with recording / record, though. Thx!!

10:03 Oct 1, 2012 

punting: '2. De hoofdelijke omslag, de som die door de belastingschuldigen in een hoofdelijken omslag moet worden opgebracht.' (http://gtb.inl.nl/iWDB/search? )actie=article&wdb=MNW&id=43297&lemmodern=punting


URL seems to keep getting broken, so here's a shortened version: http://goo.gl/a9szt

09:56 Oct 1, 2012 

@Steven: I am always surprised at how much is actually in that 'Van Dale Groot woordenboek van de nederlandse taal'!

It is a shame though that someone doesn't digitise the old Jansonius, and a few of the other old Dutch dictionaries and add them all together.

Incidentally, the 'Geïntegreerde Taalbank online' (GTB) (http://gtb.inl.nl/?owner=WNT ) is in fact doing something along those lines, and is worth having a look at. I just looked up 'punting', e.g., and found this:

'Woordsoort: znw.v.
Modern lemma: punting
Middelnederlandsch Woordenboek: poentinge
Oudste attestatie: Roeselare, ?West-Vlaanderen, 1282
Frequentie: totaal: 18, ambt.: 18
Aangetroffen spelling: pointinghe
Morfologie: Van de stam van het ww. pointen 'belasten' met het suffix -inghe.
Flexie: ns -
dp -(n)
Korte betekenis: belasting

↪1. Belasting, hoofdelijke omslag. '

(http://gtb.inl.nl/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=VMNW&id=ID29... )

09:55 Oct 1, 2012 

Mine's the 2002 edition - maybe time for an upgrade then ;)

09:52 Oct 1, 2012 

You're welcome. That's strange. I have the 14th edition: 'Van Dale Groot woordenboek van de nederlandse taal – 14e editie ©2005'. Maybe a different edition?

09:37 Oct 1, 2012 

Thanks Steven and Michael!
My digital Van Dale does not include this meaning :/
I've tried to change the question to Flemish, but it doesn't work (maybe it can only be done after closing? or maybe I'm doing it wrong)

09:26 Oct 1, 2012 

Ik dacht niet eens dat dit in het woordenboek zou staan :-). Ik heb zelf nog in overheidsdienst (tweetalig Nederlands-Frans) gewerkt, vandaar dat de term mij vertrouwd is.

09:22 Oct 1, 2012 

Way at the very bottom of the entry for 'punten', I found:

'punten (5)

pun·ten

onovergank. werkw.; puntte; h. gepunt

leenvertaling van Fr. pointer

(eerste editie 1864)
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(Belgisch-Nederlands, niet algemeen) prikken (II, 2)'

09:14 Oct 1, 2012 

Hello Ilke,

I think it would be a good idea to change this to Flemish, as this is definitely not NL Dutch.