uitponding

English translation: ex-rental sale (but see the discussion)

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Dutch term or phrase:uitponding
English translation:ex-rental sale (but see the discussion)
Entered by: Textpertise

14:23 Nov 25, 2014
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Real Estate
Dutch term or phrase: uitponding
This has been asked before but the answer is not at all satisfactory.
Context:

20 koop penthouses ten tijde van de nieuwbouw en thans uitponding van onderliggende huurwoningen door XXXX, appartementen variëren van ca. 180-416m2, uitponding is 100m2-220m2

Yes, sloppy use of the word...

'Uitponding is de benaming voor de verkoop van woningen welke uit de verhuur op de vrije markt worden verkocht. Deze objecten zijn meestal in het bezit van een woningcorporatie of een belegger. De huurwoningen worden zowel verkocht aan de zittende huurders alsmede aan particuliere woningzoekenden'

Any offers of a word for this, or will it have to be described along the lines of 'selling off of previously rented homes'
Richard Purdom
Portugal
Local time: 10:22
ex-rental sale
Explanation:
Assumes your definition is correct. See, for example
https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ex rental housing for...
In the UK, these are usually former council houses owned by the local authority which are being sold off but in principle, the owner could certainly be a developer or a housing authority.
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Textpertise
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:22
Grading comment
Thanks, I chose a wording based on this. Dictionaries are not always comprehensive.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1Selling off in (single) individual units
Terry Costin
4ex-rental sale
Textpertise
2 -1(BrE) sell-off of enfranchised lots
Adrian MM. (X)


Discussion entries: 30





  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
ex-rental sale


Explanation:
Assumes your definition is correct. See, for example
https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ex rental housing for...
In the UK, these are usually former council houses owned by the local authority which are being sold off but in principle, the owner could certainly be a developer or a housing authority.

Textpertise
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:22
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Thanks, I chose a wording based on this. Dictionaries are not always comprehensive.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tina Vonhof (X): In Canada it is called 'rental property conversion' and we even have an act to regulate it: http://nslegislature.ca/legc/statutes/rentvers.htm or http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=8c85...
39 mins

disagree  Terry Costin: Thing is it is not in Canada or America and concerns the difference between selling a building (etc) as a single thing as opposed to selling it off in units to generate more profit.
1 hr
  -> (1) Answer begins by saying "assumes your definition is correct". Glossary entry seems to have been changed. I said "ex-rental sale (but see the discussion)". Somebody seems to have removed that. The intention was to refer people to your opinions.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
(BrE) sell-off of enfranchised lots


Explanation:
Leasehold enfranchisement > the right to buy council rental homes or convert a long leasehold to freehold.

Example sentence(s):
  • The Leasehold Reform Act 1967 (the 1967 Act) gives leasehold tenants of houses the right to buy the freehold.

    Reference: http://www.justice.gov.uk/tribunals/residential-property
    Reference: http://www.swabeylaw.co.uk/collen.htmDi
Adrian MM. (X)
Local time: 11:22
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 63

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Terry Costin: Afraid you have not grasped the concept here.
16 mins

neutral  writeaway: wherever do you get enfranchised lots???? have you read the Dutch? /Now leasehold? Are you reading the same Dutch as I am? What good is legal grandstanding if the terms tossed out don't apply in the context?
30 mins
  -> From the onderliggende huurwoningen. I am assuming that both you and Terry JC are familiar with leasehold enfranchisement in EN law.//Again for the third time: uitponding van onderliggende *huurwoningen*//Pls. see UK Leasehold Enfranchisment Act 1967
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Selling off in (single) individual units


Explanation:
Real Estate (Onroerend Goed) Lexicon from Gateway

Available through Kluwer

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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-11-25 17:24:14 GMT)
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The wording makes a distinction between ordinary selling off, conceptually it defines, through the wording, the difference between selling property in its entirety for one price as opposed to selling off sections/parts of it, such as individual apartments, for possible many different prices, that way possibly making greater profit.

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Note added at 1 day19 hrs (2014-11-27 09:51:13 GMT) Post-grading
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For those who were unable to understand that this word is not a Brirish, American or CXanadian cobcept, since the source word is Dutch, here is its root, provided by Aart van Den End, compiler of the Legal and Economic Lexicon. Since the source is taken straight from "Het Woordenboek der Nederlandse Taal": http://gtb.inl.nl/
I think it's safe to say that this explanation of the concept is the correct one.

"Het Woordenboek der Nederlandse Taal:

UITPONDEN, m. betr. t. slachtvee: (soms reeds voor de slacht) per pond, per kilo, in 't klein verkoopen, vervolgens ook m. betr. t. andere koopwaar als fruit e.d.
Uitponden. Vendre en détail, Détailler, Vendre à la livre, BOMHOFF, Ned.-Fr. Wdb. [1835].
Uitponden. Vendre (la viande, etc.) au kilogramme, au poids, KRAMERS, Ned.-Fr. Wdb. [1862].
Uitponden, bij het pond verkoopen, V. DALE [1898 ᬶ].
— In Zevenaar bestaat een exportslachterij; toch worden alleen de in nood geslachte dieren, die men z.g.n. wenscht uit te ponden, door een empirist gekeurd, Keuring Vee en Vleesch 55 [1894].
Diee vörkooper hef dat petîken prumen bî de mande ekòcht en gieet ze nu ûtponden, DRAAIJER [1896].
Fokvereeniging Lochem. Zaterdagavond 21 Juni te 8 uur wordt bij G.E. … uitgepond onder de leden de stier, gestald bij M.E., Lochemsche Courant 17 Juni 1919.

Van Dale heeft ook de figuurlijke betekenis:
Uitponden: m.b.t. een gebouwencomplex e.d.: elke woning afzonderlijk verkopen om er zo groot mogelijke winst op te maken.
Uitpondproject: bouwproject waarbij een gebouwencomplex per woning wordt verkocht om de winst zo groot mogelijk te maken.


Thanking Aart for the root






Terry Costin
Netherlands
Local time: 11:22
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: it's even in Van Dale as well
1 hr
  -> Yes if it were something ordinary, then the Dutch would be ordinary, but it isn't, it's an uncommon wording, if V dale + Jur Lex and Real Estate Lex has it, it's good enough for me, amen

disagree  Adrian MM. (X): afraid not, mate. You have completely ignored the enfranchisement angle: welke uit de verhuur op de vrije markt worden verkocht.// Read CAREFULLY the answer chosen: ex-rental sale.
2 hrs
  -> Tom, I'm sorry I'm not your mate, sorry, and I have ignored nothing, old boy.

agree  Barend van Zadelhoff
6 hrs
  -> Dank je Barend
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