Milling

French translation: fraisage

07:48 Jun 9, 2017

English to French translations [PRO]
Manufacturing / Milling

English term or phrase: Milling

Context :
Milling
Our modern computer-controlled milling machines guarantee professional milling and drilling. Some of the practices of this technique are sample signs for the floor industry and acoustic panels

It is about a wood departement. I would translate "milling" by "fraisage" but I don't know if it is coherent ( I am not an expert about that and it is the only part of the text who is a little "technical" as it is a general presentation)

Thanks for help

Axelle H. KudoZ activity Questions: 10 (none open) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 2 France
Local time: 22:02

French translation:fraisage

Explanation:
Suggestion
cf. http://blog.cncfraises.fr/fraisage/le-fraisage-du-bois/

Selected response from:

Marielle Akamatsu
France
Local time: 22:02

Grading comment

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +4

fraisage

Marielle Akamatsu

3 -2

usinage

Tony M

Summary of reference entries provided

Milling

Daryo

Answers

28 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

milling

fraisage

Explanation:
Suggestion
cf. http://blog.cncfraises.fr/fraisage/le-fraisage-du-bois/

Marielle Akamatsu
France
Local time: 22:02
Works in field
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 21

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci Marielle. C'est mon choix premier mais je trouve bizarre le fraisage sur bois ( peut être parce que je l'associe trop à l'acier ? )

26 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

milling usinage

Explanation:
Although I believe that the usual term 'fraisage' can indeed also be used for wood (it's done using a 'fraise'!), you might find this a better option, even though it more strictly translates 'machining' — but aftar all, unless specified in more detail (not the case in your text given here), 'milling' can also have a more general sense like this too .

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Note added at 44 minutes (2017-06-09 08:32:29 GMT)
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Asker, that's exactly my point: since the type of 'milling' is not specified in any greater detail in your text, you have the liberty to use a slightly more general term, which fits well with 'drilling', and avoids a too-slavishly-literal rendering.

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Note added at 1 heure (2017-06-09 09:00:00 GMT)
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OK, our FR native-speaker colleagues have come down on me like a ton of bricks for my suggestion, which however cannot really be said to be so 'totally wrong' as to justify disagreeing; but I accept that certain FR people will seek to be more literal than is necessarily the case in EN.

Just for the record, in EN (as it is used in the real world, rather than in Dico-land), although 'milling' can indeed describe one quite specific type of operation, it can also cover a slightly wider range of 'machining' operations.

I was only seeking to offer a possible alternative to the 'fraisage', with which Gilles didn't initially agree — but now supports!

Had I not received two 'disagrees', I would have simply gracefully withdrawn my suggestion in the light of the better suggestion subsequently submitted.

Tony M
France
Local time: 22:02
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 54

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you Tony ! unfortunately I have not so much details ...

Asker: Thank you everybody !

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

mchd: c'est une extrapolation ! Le texte source = milling and drilling // Ici, on parle de deux opérations : milling and drilling, l'usinage, ce sont d'autres opérations ! Cela reste une extrapolation.

14 mins

-> OK, it's not a problem in EN, but I see it is in FR; like I said, it was only to offer one possible viable alternative. Had you not 'disagreed', I would have already hidden this suggestion.

disagree

GILLES MEUNIER: certainement pas, usinage ne s'applique pas ici....

27 mins

-> You really can't claim this is totally wrong, even though it amounts to taking too much of a liberty in FR.

neutral

Daryo: not wrong, but too general // given that the ST mentions "computer-controlled milling machine" it's almost certainly "fraisage" of complex shapes, combined with some drilling

40 mins

-> Thanks, Daryo, for your perfectly reasonable comment, which I accept! When I originally posted, there was only one totally wrong answer posted (since deleted) ;-) / Yes, I agree, but Gilles originally said 'fraisage' was wrong, didn't apply to wood :-)

Reference comments

1 hr

Reference: Milling

Reference information:
Milling is a cutting process that uses a milling cutter to remove material from the surface of a workpiece. The milling cutter is a rotary cutting tool, often with multiple cutting points. As opposed to drilling, where the tool is advanced along its rotation axis, the cutter in milling is usually moved perpendicular to its axis so that cutting occurs on the circumference of the cutter. As the milling cutter enters the workpiece, the cutting edges (flutes or teeth) of the tool repeatedly cut into and exit from the material, shaving off chips (swarf) from the workpiece with each pass. The cutting action is shear deformation; material is pushed off the workpiece in tiny clumps that hang together to a greater or lesser extent (depending on the material) to form chips. This makes metal cutting somewhat different (in its mechanics) from slicing softer materials with a blade.

The milling process removes material by performing many separate, small cuts. This is accomplished by using a cutter with many teeth, spinning the cutter at high speed, or advancing the material through the cutter slowly; most often it is some combination of these three approaches.[2] The speeds and feeds used are varied to suit a combination of variables. The speed at which the piece advances through the cutter is called feed rate, or just feed; it is most often measured in length of material per full revolution of the cutter.

There are two major classes of milling process:

In face milling, the cutting action occurs primarily at the end corners of the milling cutter. Face milling is used to cut flat surfaces (faces) into the workpiece, or to cut flat-bottomed cavities.
In peripheral milling, the cutting action occurs primarily along the circumference of the cutter, so that the cross section of the milled surface ends up receiving the shape of the cutter. In this case the blades of the cutter can be seen as scooping out material from the work piece. Peripheral milling is well suited to the cutting of deep slots, threads, and gear teeth.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milling_(machining)

Fraisage
Le fraisage est un procédé de fabrication où l'enlèvement de matière sous forme de copeaux résulte de la combinaison de deux mouvements : la rotation de l'outil de coupe, d'une part, et l'avancée de la pièce à usiner d'autre part.

Fraiseuse à commande numérique
Le fraisage est habituellement réalisé par une machine-outil, la fraiseuse qui est particulièrement adaptée à l'usinage de pièces prismatiques et permet également, si la machine est équipée de commande numérique, de réaliser tous types de formes même complexes. L'outil classiquement utilisé est la fraise.

Les fraiseuses actuelles sont fréquemment automatisées (fraiseuses à commande numérique et centres d'usinage).
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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraisage

the defining characteristic of "milling" is the movement of the cutting tool relative to the piece being worked - NOT the material

ANY solid material can be milled: metal, wood, plastics, stones/rocks (marble), ice ...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

French
PRO pts in category: 24

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