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English term or phrase:except in the sense that...
English translation:the only thing that...
Entered by: Allison Wright
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13:05 Oct 30, 2010
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English term or phrase: except in the sense that...
The sentence like this:" Why did she ever think there was something psychotic about him except in the sense that people who threaten our assumptions are always believed to be mad?"

I wonder how to understand "except in the sense that..."
macky
Local time: 03:49
the only thing that could make her think there was something psychotic about him is that he
Explanation:
threatens her assumptions.

Another way of same the same thing.
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Allison Wright
Portugal
Local time: 20:49
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3the only thing that could make her think there was something psychotic about him is that he
Allison Wright
4 +2besides the fact / apart from the obvious reason
luskie
4 +1except if (she) was using the word in its general not medical/clinical meaning
Stephanie Ezrol
4 +1except in the way that
Joyce A
3psychotic because she might consider him as threatening her assumptions
Veronika McLaren


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
psychotic because she might consider him as threatening her assumptions


Explanation:
That's how many think of others as mad - they threaten their ways of seeing things and here "she" might be feeling threatened in that way.

Veronika McLaren
Local time: 15:49
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
the only thing that could make her think there was something psychotic about him is that he


Explanation:
threatens her assumptions.

Another way of same the same thing.

Allison Wright
Portugal
Local time: 20:49
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you for help!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mark Nathan
1 hr
agree  Ildiko Santana
5 hrs
agree  Jack Doughty
6 hrs
neutral  Bernhard Sulzer: that means he could really be psychotic. But we're to think she could only think he's psychotic in the sense/as in... (a non-medical "way"), so it's believed he's not really "psychotic". My thoughts.
13 hrs
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
besides the fact / apart from the obvious reason


Explanation:
Why did she ever think there was something psychotic about him, besides the fact / apart from the obvious reason that people who threaten our assumptions are always believed to be mad?

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Note added at 29 mins (2010-10-30 13:35:05 GMT)
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or maybe "if not for"

luskie
Local time: 21:49
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jim Tucker: Yes, a slightly off-center usage in the asker's text.
20 mins
  -> so it seems, thank you jim
agree  Amel Abdullah
3 hrs
  -> thank you!
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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
except in the way that


Explanation:
Here is a dictionary definition/synonyms of "in a sense." It is the same as "in some respects" or "in a way."
http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/in_a_sense.htm
IN A SENSE
Pronunciation (US):
Dictionary entry overview: What does in a sense mean?
• IN A SENSE (adverb)
The adverb IN A SENSE has 1 sense:
1. in some respects
Familiarity information: IN A SENSE used as an adverb is very rare.

• IN A SENSE (adverb)
Sense 1 in a sense [BACK TO TOP]
Meaning:
In some respects
Synonyms:
in a sense; in a way
Context example:
in a sense, language is like math

- So: Why did she ever think there was something psychotic about him except in the sense that people who threaten our assumptions are always believed to be mad?"
- Can be: Why did she ever think there was something psychotic about him except in the way in which people who threaten our assumptions are always believed to be mad?"




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Note added at 52 mins (2010-10-30 13:58:06 GMT)
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Both possible: Except in the way that / except in the way in which

Joyce A
Thailand
Local time: 02:49
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Komeil Zamani Babgohari: Komeil Zamani Babgohari / Except in a state that
1 day4 mins
  -> Thank you, Komeil! :-)
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57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
except if (she) was using the word in its general not medical/clinical meaning


Explanation:
"except in the the sense that" is being used to contrast the medical/clinical term psychotic with the more general or literal use of the term mad.

When you say to someone, "you must be mad to even think that," you are using the term mad to be mean thinking in a dangerous way. That dangerous thinking could be as described, as it is in your text, as challenging a way of thinking or it could be thinking in a way that reflects a serious misunderstanding which misunderstanding could be harmful.

"except in the sense that" in your context, and in general use, refers to the meaning of a word or phrase which may commonly mean one thing, but could also mean something quite different. Sense here refers to "meaning in which it is" this not that.

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 15:49
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 27

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bernhard Sulzer: yes, "except/unless she used it in that other/one, non-medical sense", "unless what she meant was that..."
1 hr
  -> Thanks Bernhard !
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