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English translation: after DST has ceased


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English term or phrase:Post DST
English translation:after DST has ceased
Entered by: Charles Davis
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11:40 Oct 14, 2011
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English term or phrase: Post DST
at 20:00 GMT (Post DST)

DST - Daylight Saving Time

Is it after the transition to daylight saving time (i.e. during daylight saving time) or vice versa?

Thank you!
interprivate
Local time: 04:04
after DST has ceased
Explanation:
I think the extra context posted in the discussion area makes this quite clear. DST, Daylight Saving Time, refers to summer time; in fact in the UK it is called BST, British Summer Time. So right now DST is in effect in the UK, though it soon won't be.

As Sheila has observed, this year, 2011, DST ceases in the UK at 2 am on Sunday 30 October, when it will instantly become 1 am, and UK time will be GMT (1 hour behind BST/DST) for the winter.
http://wwp.britishsummertime.co.uk/

The context refers to a poker tournament run by a UK-based website. The relevant sentence reads:
"From the 1st of November the €10,000/€12,000 GTD REBUY; which runs every night at 20:00 GMT (Post-DST), will change to a €10,000 GUARANTEED HEADHUNTER".
http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/head-master-leaderboard.php

If we consult the daily schedule for the tournaments at the site, we see that the one referred to, €10,000/€12,000 GTD REBUY, currently takes place at 19:00.
http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/dailytournaments.php

Is this 19:00 GMT or 19:00 UK time (currently DST)? It is GMT; we can tell this from the fact that the daily 1,000 € guaranteed Omaha pot limit game, which appears in this table at 19:30, is separately advertised as taking place at "7:30pm GMT / 8:30pm UK Time" ( http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/tournaments/1000-guaranteed ). It makes sense, really, to use GMT for the timings, because people from other countries are probably playing, and to use UK time might well cause confusion.

So then the €10,000 guaranteed rebuy takes place at 19:00 GMT, which is currently 20:00 UK time (DST). But on 1 November, when it changes to a €10,000 GUARANTEED HEADHUNTER, it will be at 20:00 GMT, which by then will be 20:00 UK time. So they are keeping it at the same time in terms of UK time, but when the clocks go back this will change from 19:00 GMT (20:00 DST) to 20:00 GMT. So 20:00 GMT refers here to the time after DST has ceased (on 30 October). That is the meaning of "Post DST".


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I may say that when you look at references to DST on the Internet you find that a lot of people are confused about it and think that DST is winter time, starting in November. The opposite is true: it is summer time. The "daylight saving" is the result of putting the clocks forward, so you get lighter evenings (it stays light later, by the clock, than if you did not put the clocks forward).

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Note added at 11 hrs (2011-10-14 22:59:04 GMT)
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I did not make it explicit that the phrase "post DST" is present here precisely because the time of this tournament will change in terms of GMT from 19:00 to 20:00 at the moment DST ceases. So it is only 20:00 GMT after that, not before: in other words, post DST.
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Charles Davis
Local time: 03:04
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Thank you very much!
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4 +2after DST has ceasedCharles Davis
4 +1after dst
Martin Riordan


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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
post dst
after dst


Explanation:
It seems to me that the author means "after DST comes into effect". That is, the particular time referred to continues to be 20:00 GMT (unaffected by DST).

adj : (prefix) coming after; "`post' is a prefix in `postmillenial' and `postgraduate'"

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-10-14 13:04:54 GMT)
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I would agree with Sheila and Tony. The term is so vague, and potentially important, that you should check with the source.



    Reference: http://dictionary.die.net/post
Martin Riordan
Brazil
Local time: 22:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 36
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for the answer! It is (and was) very clear that "post" means "after". The problem is somewhat different and "after daylight saving time" does not seem to solve it. Your explanation "after DST comes into effect" meaning "during daylight saving time period" is OK. However, the discussion posts seem to have some doubts (me too).

Asker: Sorry about that.

Asker: I wish I could check with the source. Thank you for your input!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Logical, but... context?
16 mins
  -> Context seems to be particularly out of fashion on Kudoz, lately...
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
post dst
after DST has ceased


Explanation:
I think the extra context posted in the discussion area makes this quite clear. DST, Daylight Saving Time, refers to summer time; in fact in the UK it is called BST, British Summer Time. So right now DST is in effect in the UK, though it soon won't be.

As Sheila has observed, this year, 2011, DST ceases in the UK at 2 am on Sunday 30 October, when it will instantly become 1 am, and UK time will be GMT (1 hour behind BST/DST) for the winter.
http://wwp.britishsummertime.co.uk/

The context refers to a poker tournament run by a UK-based website. The relevant sentence reads:
"From the 1st of November the €10,000/€12,000 GTD REBUY; which runs every night at 20:00 GMT (Post-DST), will change to a €10,000 GUARANTEED HEADHUNTER".
http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/head-master-leaderboard.php

If we consult the daily schedule for the tournaments at the site, we see that the one referred to, €10,000/€12,000 GTD REBUY, currently takes place at 19:00.
http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/dailytournaments.php

Is this 19:00 GMT or 19:00 UK time (currently DST)? It is GMT; we can tell this from the fact that the daily 1,000 € guaranteed Omaha pot limit game, which appears in this table at 19:30, is separately advertised as taking place at "7:30pm GMT / 8:30pm UK Time" ( http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/tournaments/1000-guaranteed ). It makes sense, really, to use GMT for the timings, because people from other countries are probably playing, and to use UK time might well cause confusion.

So then the €10,000 guaranteed rebuy takes place at 19:00 GMT, which is currently 20:00 UK time (DST). But on 1 November, when it changes to a €10,000 GUARANTEED HEADHUNTER, it will be at 20:00 GMT, which by then will be 20:00 UK time. So they are keeping it at the same time in terms of UK time, but when the clocks go back this will change from 19:00 GMT (20:00 DST) to 20:00 GMT. So 20:00 GMT refers here to the time after DST has ceased (on 30 October). That is the meaning of "Post DST".


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Note added at 11 hrs (2011-10-14 22:53:17 GMT)
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I may say that when you look at references to DST on the Internet you find that a lot of people are confused about it and think that DST is winter time, starting in November. The opposite is true: it is summer time. The "daylight saving" is the result of putting the clocks forward, so you get lighter evenings (it stays light later, by the clock, than if you did not put the clocks forward).

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Note added at 11 hrs (2011-10-14 22:59:04 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

I did not make it explicit that the phrase "post DST" is present here precisely because the time of this tournament will change in terms of GMT from 19:00 to 20:00 at the moment DST ceases. So it is only 20:00 GMT after that, not before: in other words, post DST.

Charles Davis
Local time: 03:04
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 60
Grading comment
Thank you very much!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Claudia Luque Bedregal: Interesting explanation. Buen fin de semana Charles!
1 hr
  -> Many thanks, Claudia. Igualmente :)

agree  Thuy-PTT
2 days3 hrs
  -> Thanks, Thuy-PTT :)
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Changes made by editors
Oct 19, 2011 - Changes made by Charles Davis:
Created KOG entryKudoZ term => KOG term
Oct 14, 2011 - Changes made by interprivate:
FieldTech/Engineering => Other


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