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English translation: (India, slang) An affectionate name for an older woman.


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English term or phrase:auntie
English translation:(India, slang) An affectionate name for an older woman.
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18:43 Aug 30, 2011
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Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / Culture / stereotypes / India / post-colonial literature
English term or phrase: auntie
My question concerns a passage from the 'The Buddha of Suburbia' by Hanif Kureishi, which mocks a stereotypical image of India that a British person might have (this is London, 1970s):

"Everyone looks at you, I'm sure, and thinks: an Indian boy, how exotic, how interesting, what stories of *aunties* and elephants we'll hear now from him. And you're from Orpington."

My question is: is the meaning of "auntie" here different from "a familiar or diminutive word for aunt" and if yes, what is it?

(Yes, I'm familiar with the chapter "Of Aunties and Elephant" in "Black British Literature" by Mark Stein, but it doesn't explain much).

I'll be very happy to read your ideas!
Adam Bede
Local time: 04:09
(India, slang) An affectionate name for an older woman.
Explanation:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/auntie
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lorenab23
United States
Local time: 19:09
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Thanks! Also great thanks to Donna, Shera Lyn, Charles and all those who commented - this was really helpful!
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3 +9(India, slang) An affectionate name for an older woman.lorenab23
4term for British stereotype of women in large extended Indian families
Donna Stevens
Summary of reference entries provided
Aunty /auntieShera Lyn Parpia

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +9
(India, slang) An affectionate name for an older woman.


Explanation:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/auntie

lorenab23
United States
Local time: 19:09
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks! Also great thanks to Donna, Shera Lyn, Charles and all those who commented - this was really helpful!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jack Doughty
3 mins

neutral  Polangmar: Why should a young boy tell stories about older women? And what's the connection between older women and elephants?
14 mins

agree  eski
23 mins

agree  Shera Lyn Parpia: auntie is not necessarily affectionate: it's used because you're not supposed to call older people by their names - see ref.
1 hr

agree  Sheila Wilson: I'm guessing it would linger on much longer in Indian extended family groups than in the nuclear families so many of us have nowadays
1 hr

agree  Liz Broomfield: Aunties in India aren't necessarily even extended family members but just older women, I believe, much like I'm auntie Liz to my friends' children. Aunties and elephants are two stereotypes therefore linked in the comment
2 hrs

agree  Charles Davis
7 hrs

agree  Woodstock
8 hrs

agree  amarpaul: I believe Liz's reasoning is spot on.
13 hrs

agree  Phong Le
19 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
term for British stereotype of women in large extended Indian families


Explanation:
Auntie and Elephants are only related because they are both stereotypes that the British often use when thinking of Indian culture. Aunties refers to the women in large, extended Indian families. Elephants are, of course, elephants. Not every Indian family is an extended family with many 'aunties'. And there are not that many elephants everywhere in India.

Donna Stevens
Local time: 04:09
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: Aunty /auntie

Reference information:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_English

Use of the English words 'uncle' and 'aunty' as suffixes when addressing people such as distant relatives, neighbours, acquaintances, even total strangers (like shopkeepers) who are significantly older than oneself. E.g., "Hello, Swathi aunty!" In fact, in Indian culture, children or teenagers addressing their friends' parents as Mr Patel or Mrs Patel (etc.) is rare and may even be considered unacceptable or offensive (in the sense of referring to an elder person by name). A substitution of Sir/Ma'am, while common for addressing teachers/professors or any person in an official position, would be considered too formal to address parents of friends or any other unrelated (but known) elder persons. On the contrary, if the person is related, he/she will usually be addressed with the name of the relation in the vernacular Indian language, even while conversing in English.[citation needed] For example, if a woman is one's mother's sister, she would not be addressed (by a Hindi speaker) as "auntie" but as Mausi (Hindi: मौसी) (by a Kannada speaker as Chikkamma Kannada: ಅತ್ತೆ). Calling one's friends' parents aunty and uncle was also very common in Great Britain in the 1960s and 70s but is much rarer today. The terms 'Uncle' and 'Aunty' with certain intonations can also connote a derogatory reference to the advanced age of an individual.

also an interesting read - and read the comments!:
http://www.indiacurrents.com/articles/2010/01/06/please-dont...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_Asia
Older people are rarely referred to by first names; they are addressed with such honorifics as Mr. and Mrs. or the appropriate non-English equivalents. Sometimes terms such as "Uncle" or "Auntie" are appropriate for older non-relatives.

Shera Lyn Parpia
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 11

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Tony M: Yes, back in the 60s, I always used to call my parents' friends Uncle or Aunty
13 mins
agree  xxxmediamatrix: When I was very young (in the 1950s) I learnt to count by listing my 'aunts' and 'uncles' (aunty 1 is 'Nora', aunty 2 is 'Betty' ...) But both my parents were 'only' children. No problem - at the age of 3 I could count to 20!
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