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Scottish "rock"

English translation: keelie/ ned


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22:36 Oct 19, 2005
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Art/Literary - Slang / Scottish Language and slang, archaisms and colloquialisms
English term or phrase: Scottish "rock"
Hello. What terms in Scots dialect/slang mean someone who's strong physically and emotionally? In American Emglish the term is "rock".
xxxMavericker
English translation:keelie/ ned
Explanation:
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Note added at 8 hrs 28 mins (2005-10-20 07:05:04 GMT)
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1. A keelie is a young working-class male from a city or large town. The term is generally derogatory and implies that the person is rough, tough, and a potential hooligan. In Glasgow, however, it is sometimes used more neutrally. Also, in Glasgow girls can be called keelies.

2. In the Glasgow area a ned is a young hooligan or petty criminal.
He's a right wee ned.


From:

http://www.britannia.org/scotland/scotsdictionary/k.shtml

and:

http://www.britannia.org/scotland/scotsdictionary/n.shtml

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Note added at 15 hrs 12 mins (2005-10-20 13:49:30 GMT)
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This is the link where I got the two terms from, some answerers also suggested Chav and Chavvy

http://www.able2know.com/forums/about60928.html
Selected response from:

Dina Abdo
Palestine
Local time: 20:03
Grading comment
What about "nedette"?
"birkie" and "carle"?
CAn you refer to someone on the stret as a "kerne"?
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



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5 -2keelie/ ned
Dina Abdo


Discussion entries: 3





  

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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
scottish
keelie/ ned


Explanation:
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Note added at 8 hrs 28 mins (2005-10-20 07:05:04 GMT)
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1. A keelie is a young working-class male from a city or large town. The term is generally derogatory and implies that the person is rough, tough, and a potential hooligan. In Glasgow, however, it is sometimes used more neutrally. Also, in Glasgow girls can be called keelies.

2. In the Glasgow area a ned is a young hooligan or petty criminal.
He's a right wee ned.


From:

http://www.britannia.org/scotland/scotsdictionary/k.shtml

and:

http://www.britannia.org/scotland/scotsdictionary/n.shtml

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Note added at 15 hrs 12 mins (2005-10-20 13:49:30 GMT)
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This is the link where I got the two terms from, some answerers also suggested Chav and Chavvy

http://www.able2know.com/forums/about60928.html

Dina Abdo
Palestine
Local time: 20:03
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
What about "nedette"?
"birkie" and "carle"?
CAn you refer to someone on the stret as a "kerne"?

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Cilian O'Tuama: what's derogatory or criminal about being physically and emotionally strong?
51 mins
  -> That's how the term was defined on the web Cilian. But according to some scottish forums, the term "ned" is used to indicate strength.
disagree  Clare Barnes: I'm not at all sure that the connotations of these words are at all the same as "rock".
3 hrs
  -> I couldn't really accept the definitions either, but those were the only I found in scottish forums :)
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