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English translation: a little lie, but of various shades of white and various sizes of little


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English term or phrase:white lie
English translation:a little lie, but of various shades of white and various sizes of little
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20:02 Mar 10, 2010
English to English translations [Non-PRO]
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English term or phrase: white lie
Since this is English to English, I'm looking for the best, most accurate explanation of this expression. The dictionary says, it's either just a lie or it's a fib, which would be a small lie. Then experimenting on Google Translate I also found "pious lie" and "emergency lie". However, personally I thought that this was a huge/big lie or a bold-faced lie. So is it big or small and is it a lie of any particular natural or just general? If of any particular nature, then in what sense/context?

I need native speakers of English only, preferably of American English. I marked this as PRO, because non-PRO's description said: "a question that can be answered by any bilingual person without the aid of a dictionary". Well, I don't need just ANY bilingual person, I need a native speaker of American English.

Ref.: Miranda Lambert: White Liar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoR2Oax82kY
bochkor
Local time: 21:23
a little lie, but of various shades of white and various sizes of little
Explanation:
The use of the term white lie is fairly broad which is why you found so many different answers. The "white" in white lie can be used to mean pious as opposed to devious, or for bad purposes. I suppose emergency lie also falls in a similar category as in, "I had to lie, it was an emergency and we had to get this done. Nothing was hurt by the lie."

The "white" is the defining character more than the size of the lie. The white is to say not for dark or for devious purposes. Children are often taught that white lies are okay, and in that circumstances it usually also means a little lie -- as in, "I didn't really lie, I just didn't tell him everything," or "I couldn't admit to certain things so I had to lie a little."

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Note added at 6 hrs (2010-03-11 02:07:51 GMT)
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In your example, the cheating about to be husband is much like the cheating husband. I didn't tell my wife about the other woman or women because I didn't want to hurt her. I love my wife and my children, blah, blah, blah. The husband may think this is a white lie.
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Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 21:23
Grading comment
Stephanie was the first to explain "white" as the opposite of "dark", which is WHY this type of lie is little. Without this contrast it was just a guessing game (like because of the bride's dress, etc., well, isn't every bride's dress always white, anyway, at least in the West?), why the white color has been chosen to describe this type of lie. That's why I thought, that this was the best answer. Nonetheless, thank you all for your valuable input!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +12a lie that causes no harm to anyone
Jim Tucker
5 +5an unimportant lie, to be tactful or polite
Ildiko Santana
4 +3a little lie, but of various shades of white and various sizes of little
Stephanie Ezrol
4 -1creative writing
Alexandra Taggart


Discussion entries: 12





  

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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +12
a lie that causes no harm to anyone


Explanation:
...hence "white"

Otherwise known as a "little white lie."

The implication is that there is nothing immoral about a white lie since it is harmless. This is also the source of its overtones as a "practical lie" or "emergency lie." This article sheds light on the common perception:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/27/the-little-white-li...

Jim Tucker
United States
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Derek Gill Franßen: I'd say "not meant to harm," but yes (fun article). :)
13 mins
  -> Thanks, yes, that's more precise. (So hard to get anything right.)

agree  Suzan Hamer: Causes no harm and usually prevents hurt feelings. ... At least it is the teller's intention not to hurt someone's feelings.
19 mins
  -> Ahh, thank you for that distinction.

agree  Lietta Warren-Granato: Exactly! A tipical white lie would be the answer to: "Do I look all right with my new perm?"
29 mins

agree  Jenni Lukac
43 mins

agree  Tony M: Yes... it might be little and insignificant, or possibly quite a whopper... but the idea is that in some way it is a lie that is for a good reason (and so supposedly justifiable)
1 hr

agree  John Detre
1 hr

agree  jccantrell: Hmmmm, "Do I look fat in this dress?" Answer is almost ALWAYS a white lie.
1 hr

agree  kmtext
11 hrs

agree  B D Finch: Exactly the same in UK English. The idea is more or less that lying is generally sinful but God would understand that in this case it isn't because the lie was told with good intentions and to do no harm.
14 hrs

agree  Goldcoaster
18 hrs

agree  Paula Vaz-Carreiro
1 day1 hr

agree  Alexandra Taggart: also - telling stories (about wonderful holidays)
1 day2 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +5
an unimportant lie, to be tactful or polite


Explanation:
Not to disagree with Jim or Stephanie, but what I learned about 'white lie' is slightly different. True, it is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement. It is an unimportant lie that has no severe consequences, one that causes no harm; quite the contrary. Besides the intention to deceive others there is a further intention: to be tactful or polite, to protect someone's feelings. I think we might as well call this type of lie an "innocent" lie.
To give you a few examples: Let's say I just saw my best friend's ex boyfriend at the store with his new partner. My best friend calls me the same day and asks if I've seen her ex lately, and I say "No, haven't seen him.." That is a white lie. I know that the truth would make my friend upset, so I lie.
When we tell our kids all the stories about Santa Claus, we mean no harm, we want to protect them as long as we can from the pain they will feel when they discover the truth. We don't want to hurt them, so we lie about Santa and the rain deer and the sleigh and chimneys.. (for years! :)
A very common white lie is when, almost without fail, we tell our mother/father/sibling/friend that lives far away that we are doing just fine! - never mind that we just lost our job or broke our ankle or our kid dropped out of high school... We don't want our loved ones to worry, they can't help anyway, and they are unlikely to find out we lied.

Ildiko Santana
United States
Local time: 18:23
Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  lindaellen: This is my US/native understanding of a white lie - not to hurt someone's feelings or to spare them unnecessary pain or sorrows.
10 hrs
  -> Thank you

agree  Colin Ryan: Yes, a lie is a lie but in a white lie, the end (easily) justifies the means
12 hrs
  -> Thank you

agree  gabiomelka
14 hrs
  -> Thank you

agree  Tina Vonhof: I think 'the end justifies the means' sums it up nicely.
19 hrs
  -> Thank you

agree  Alexandra Taggart: Yes, in order to be tactful, as a part of a good diplomacy.
1 day1 hr
  -> Thank you
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
a little lie, but of various shades of white and various sizes of little


Explanation:
The use of the term white lie is fairly broad which is why you found so many different answers. The "white" in white lie can be used to mean pious as opposed to devious, or for bad purposes. I suppose emergency lie also falls in a similar category as in, "I had to lie, it was an emergency and we had to get this done. Nothing was hurt by the lie."

The "white" is the defining character more than the size of the lie. The white is to say not for dark or for devious purposes. Children are often taught that white lies are okay, and in that circumstances it usually also means a little lie -- as in, "I didn't really lie, I just didn't tell him everything," or "I couldn't admit to certain things so I had to lie a little."

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Note added at 6 hrs (2010-03-11 02:07:51 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

In your example, the cheating about to be husband is much like the cheating husband. I didn't tell my wife about the other woman or women because I didn't want to hurt her. I love my wife and my children, blah, blah, blah. The husband may think this is a white lie.

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 21:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Grading comment
Stephanie was the first to explain "white" as the opposite of "dark", which is WHY this type of lie is little. Without this contrast it was just a guessing game (like because of the bride's dress, etc., well, isn't every bride's dress always white, anyway, at least in the West?), why the white color has been chosen to describe this type of lie. That's why I thought, that this was the best answer. Nonetheless, thank you all for your valuable input!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gary D: excelent answer.. a White lie like.. "I didn't eat the choclate" when you have choclate on your lips and the empty wrapper in front of you
5 hrs
  -> Thanks Gary. Sometimes its just the chocolate wrappers you left lying around

agree  Alexandra Taggart: "avoiding to hirt someone you love"
1 day2 hrs
  -> Thanks Alexandra

agree  William [Bill] Gray: A great definition.
2 days22 hrs
  -> Thank you Bill.
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1 day3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
creative writing


Explanation:
is also often called "a white lie", as the writer's fantasy drives her/him away from the real.
http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/rea/rea3.htm

Alexandra Taggart
Russian Federation
Local time: 05:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jim Tucker: That is just a wordplay on the subject's (White's) name.
9 hrs

disagree  Kim Metzger: Sorry, but this makes no sense.
16 hrs
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Voters for reclassification
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PRO / non-PRO
Non-PRO (3): Tony M, Ildiko Santana, Jim Tucker


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Changes made by editors
Mar 12, 2010 - Changes made by Jim Tucker:
LevelPRO => Non-PRO


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