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English translation: in atmospheric pressure


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English term or phrase:in air
English translation:in atmospheric pressure
Entered by: Vincentius Mariatmo
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23:43 Jul 10, 2008
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Law/Patents - Transport / Transportation / Shipping
English term or phrase: in air
In a fuel purchase contract.

7. Price
EUR 1000,00 per metric ton in air on FOB ....

There were some suggestions that it might refer to a transport by plane, but the word "vessel" which ocurrs in other places of this contract seems to indicate a ship.
How should I understand "in air" here?
Magdalena Wysmyk
Poland
Local time: 03:27
in atmospheric pressure
Explanation:
The contract just want to clarify the weight of metric ton in atmospheric pressure of the sea level. In a non standard atmospheric pressure, weight measurement reading can be different.
Possibly the fuel you have mentioned above is in a gas form? I mean not a liquid fuel like petroleum.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-07-11 02:06:57 GMT)
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Sorry, I forgot to give reference in my answer :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_(unit)

"It is precisely the product of 1 kg-force per square centimeter (one technical atmosphere) times 1.013 25 (bar/atmosphere) divided by 0.980 665 (one gram-force)"
Hope this answer helps you ^^ CMIIW
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Vincentius Mariatmo
Local time: 08:27
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Thank you very much! That was of great help.
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4 +5in atmospheric pressure
Vincentius Mariatmo
3 +1under atmospheric conditions / air-driedKen Cox


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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
in atmospheric pressure


Explanation:
The contract just want to clarify the weight of metric ton in atmospheric pressure of the sea level. In a non standard atmospheric pressure, weight measurement reading can be different.
Possibly the fuel you have mentioned above is in a gas form? I mean not a liquid fuel like petroleum.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-07-11 02:06:57 GMT)
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Sorry, I forgot to give reference in my answer :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_(unit)

"It is precisely the product of 1 kg-force per square centimeter (one technical atmosphere) times 1.013 25 (bar/atmosphere) divided by 0.980 665 (one gram-force)"
Hope this answer helps you ^^ CMIIW

Vincentius Mariatmo
Local time: 08:27
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you very much! That was of great help.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gary D: fuel changes volume with heat, Ie if you fill your car up at night you get a greater volume of fuel in the car than you would during the heat of the day.this sounds like there refueling a plane, tonne's of fuel out of the ground
1 hr
  -> Thank you for giving example about this matter ^^ I never notice about the fuel in my car :D
agree  Demi Ebrite: vessel as a ship, or a fuel carrying container? . . . if 'air' is involved, Vincentius has pegged it. "EUR 1000,00 per metric ton in air on FOB" (free on board) isn't quite right ~
1 hr
  -> Thank you for your comment :)
neutral  Richard Benham: The mass of the fuel does not change with atmospheric pressure, even if the volume does...!
1 hr
  -> I'll try to find better resources about this matter. Time to open my chemistry book in the University again ^^ Thank you for your response :D
agree  Phong Le
2 hrs
  -> Thank you :D
agree  Lily Waters
6 hrs
  -> Thank you ^^
agree  Peter Skipp
6 hrs
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
under atmospheric conditions / air-dried


Explanation:
If the fuel in question is coal, this could mean 'under atmospheric conditions' (as opposed to 'dry weight') or be a short of shorthand for 'weight of air-dried coal'. Coal can absorb moisture, which does not contribute to its fuel value (caloric value) but does contribute to its weight.

However, the text does not read like native English.

sample ref:

Understanding Coal Analysis - Majari Magazine - Membangun ...
How about AD (air-dried) basis? And what coal ash analysis is all about?” ... Surface moisture: water held on the surface of coal particles or macerals ...
www.majarikanayakan.com/2008/06/understanding-coal-sample-a...

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Note added at 8 hrs (2008-07-11 08:17:31 GMT)
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*a sort of shorthand*

Ken Cox
Local time: 03:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 2
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for your help.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Max Nuijens, MSc: this makes sense if it is coal. But would it then be referred to as fuel? And what is FOB? this may give us a hint.
3 hrs
  -> Why shouldn't coal be referred to as a fuel? That is its primary use. See e.g. the Oxford dico of fuel: fuel (noun) Material such as coal, gas, or oil that is burned to produce heat or power. FOB = free on board (standard shipping term).
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