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22:54 Feb 12, 2010

Arabic to English translations [PRO]
History

Arabic term or phrase: الصعاليك

حركة الصعاليك افى الجاهلية

Dina 13

Summary of answers provided

5 +1

outlaws

baligh

4 +1

Brigand Poets, Sa'alik

Nadia Ayoub

Hobos/Sa'aleek

Ali Moh

ragamuffin

Ahmed Essa

3 +1

paupers

Randa F

tramps

hassan zekry

Sa'aleek or vagabonds

mbrodie

S’aaleek

Tarik Boussetta

tramps

servant2islam

Answers

14 mins confidence:

S’aaleek

Explanation:
S’aaleek

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http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/daw...

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Note added at 17 mins (2010-02-12 23:11:36 GMT)
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http://www.mzcp-zoonoses.gr/pdfen/Islam.pdf

Reference: http://www.odabasham.net/print.php?sid=24426&cat=

Tarik Boussetta
Local time: 20:03
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Arabic

48 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

paupers

Explanation:
pre-Islam paupers movement
(a social movement of revolutionary and reformist poets, outcasts and slaves)

Randa F
Lebanon
Local time: 23:03
Native speaker of:

Arabic
PRO pts in category: 20

8 hrs confidence:

tramps

Explanation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://k...
tramp: beggar, wino, bum, hobo, wanderer
أتذكر فيلما لشارلي شابلن بعنوان الصعلوك أو the tramp

hassan zekry
Local time: 22:03
Native speaker of:

Arabic

9 hrs confidence:

Sa'aleek or vagabonds

Explanation:
Party of Vagabonds googles well

mbrodie
Local time: 21:03
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English

11 hrs confidence:

Hobos/Sa'aleek

Explanation:
I would go with Sa'aleek and footnote explaining that they were hobos who decided to rebel against the social norms.

Ali Moh
United Arab Emirates
Local time: 00:03
Native speaker of:

Arabic

12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

outlaws

Explanation:
The Sa'aaleek were not hobbos or tramps, they simply are called as such because they refused to obey social norms and regulations, and broke the tribal laws. HENCE, they are simply outlaws.

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It is still advisable to put it as "Sa'aleek" and footnote it or maybe follow it with an explicative note between parethesis. Good luck

baligh
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Arabic,

Spanish

12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Brigand Poets, Sa'alik

Explanation:
Brigand poets in the pre-Islamic and early Islamic era. The word has often been translated as "outlaws", but, strictly speaking this is not correct because pre-Islamic Arabia unlike medieval Europe, knew neither a written law nor a body to enforce it...
http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=DbCFBX6b3eEC&pg=PA671&lp...'alik+poets%22&source=bl&ots=brwPJ_WtnP&sig=x-pT1hyxPrxKdsR0xiklg5toD2s&hl=en&ei=mY52S-b7MtqWsQbxqtm7Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=%22sa'alik%20poets%22&f=false

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Note added at 12 hrs (2010-02-13 11:43:30 GMT)
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From: Encyclopedia of Arabic literature

Nadia Ayoub
Egypt
Local time: 22:03
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Arabic
PRO pts in category: 32

15 hrs confidence:

tramps

Explanation:
aperson who has no home or job and who moves from place to place

Example sentence(s):

tramps were in the era of Mohammed Ali

Reference: http://www.oxford.com

servant2islam
Native speaker of:

Arabic,

English

3 days14 hrs confidence:

ragamuffin

Explanation:
Synonyms: scarecrow, tatterdemalion

Ahmed Essa
Egypt
Local time: 22:03
Native speaker of:

Arabic,

English

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