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九曲黄河第一湾

English translation: first bay of the winding Yellow River


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Chinese term or phrase:九曲黄河第一湾
English translation:first bay of the winding Yellow River
Entered by: Jason Ma
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13:39 Mar 2, 2007
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Chinese term or phrase: 九曲黄河第一湾
Context:

同仁县为全国99座历史文化名城之一。位于“九曲黄河第一湾”的黄南藏族自治州东北部,县城所在地隆务镇,距西宁市181公里,是青海省保存最完好的古城区之一。

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Jason Ma
China
Local time: 19:20
first bay of the winding Yellow River
Explanation:
first bay of the winding Yellow River

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Note added at 16 hrs (2007-03-03 05:47:43 GMT)
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I put down bay because that is the meaning of 湾, unless it is a typo for 弯 (bend). By definition, bay is a recess or inlet in the shore of a sea or lake between two capes or headlands, not as large as a gulf but larger than a cove (http://www.stripers247.com/glossary.htm). You can definitely say that an xxx (building/structure) is located at the bay. I even live in the 'Bay Area'. A few examples of 'river bays'.

The Peninsula On The Indian River Bay
All Plans, intentions and materials relating to the proposed Peninsula on the Indian River Bay and the Peninsula Club are subject to addition, deletion, ...
www.peninsuladelaware.com/ - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Salt River Bay National Historical Park and Ecological Preserve ...
Salt River Bay National Historical Park and Ecological Preserve.
www.nps.gov/sari/ - 31k - Mar 1, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

black river bay campground 2 nights
A Hearty Welcome awaits you from Laura and Allen Todd at Black River Bay Campground. You’ll enjoy your stay with us, as we offer you a peaceful campground ...
www.blackriverbaycamp.com/ - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
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peiling
Local time: 13:20
Grading comment
I choose Pei Ling Haubecker's version for the following reason: 1) 'Bay' is commonly used to refer to the bend of rivers. 2) The Yellow river in Qinghai looks 'winding', that is 'following a curve', and 'zigzag' indicates a sharp turning and, that is not the case.
I believe I can live on this banquet of beatiful sentences Yang, Haubecker and Ting. Thank you all.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3The first bend of the zigzag Yellow River
Yang Min
4 +1first bay of the winding Yellow River
peiling
4The first curve of the 9-curved Yellow RiverNai-Ching Ting


  

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59 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
The first curve of the 9-curved Yellow River


Explanation:
Some people use 九曲黃河第一彎 as well.

Please refer to: travel.sohu.com/20041124/n223158325.shtml

Nai-Ching Ting
Local time: 06:20
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your suggestion.

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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
first bay of the winding Yellow River


Explanation:
first bay of the winding Yellow River

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Note added at 16 hrs (2007-03-03 05:47:43 GMT)
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I put down bay because that is the meaning of 湾, unless it is a typo for 弯 (bend). By definition, bay is a recess or inlet in the shore of a sea or lake between two capes or headlands, not as large as a gulf but larger than a cove (http://www.stripers247.com/glossary.htm). You can definitely say that an xxx (building/structure) is located at the bay. I even live in the 'Bay Area'. A few examples of 'river bays'.

The Peninsula On The Indian River Bay
All Plans, intentions and materials relating to the proposed Peninsula on the Indian River Bay and the Peninsula Club are subject to addition, deletion, ...
www.peninsuladelaware.com/ - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Salt River Bay National Historical Park and Ecological Preserve ...
Salt River Bay National Historical Park and Ecological Preserve.
www.nps.gov/sari/ - 31k - Mar 1, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages

black river bay campground 2 nights
A Hearty Welcome awaits you from Laura and Allen Todd at Black River Bay Campground. You’ll enjoy your stay with us, as we offer you a peaceful campground ...
www.blackriverbaycamp.com/ - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

peiling
Local time: 13:20
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in MalayMalay
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
I choose Pei Ling Haubecker's version for the following reason: 1) 'Bay' is commonly used to refer to the bend of rivers. 2) The Yellow river in Qinghai looks 'winding', that is 'following a curve', and 'zigzag' indicates a sharp turning and, that is not the case.
I believe I can live on this banquet of beatiful sentences Yang, Haubecker and Ting. Thank you all.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks.

Asker: Pei Ling Haußecker, very good translation, as I see, except for 'bay', does it mean an area of lake or sea enclosed by shore? Can it apply to river?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Chun Un: I believe it was a typo, should be "彎".
11 hrs

agree  mojdrag: All though it is not a literal translation, it is prettier one.
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52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
The first bend of the zigzag Yellow River


Explanation:
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Note added at 19小时 (2007-03-03 09:11:33 GMT)
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河湾-river bend
http://images.google.cn/images?complete=1&hl=zh-CN&newwindow...

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Note added at 19小时 (2007-03-03 09:14:18 GMT)
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http://www.ecccn.com/cdiec.com.cn/doce/hh_e1.htm
http://www.sccm.gov.cn/exposition/zfcy/da jiu zhai/1/abajq01...

Yang Min
Local time: 19:20
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you again.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  pkchan
44 mins
  -> thanks

agree  Fang Sheng: I agree that we don't have to use a specific number 9 in here. It's supposed to be a generalization. Can we use "turn" instead of "curve"?
1 hr
  -> Thanks. Do you mean "the first turn of the zigzag Yellow River"?

agree  mojdrag: I agree with Fang Sheng that "turn" is better than "cuve" or "bend" although this translation is great.
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