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公开博弈

English translation: game


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Chinese term or phrase:公开博弈
English translation:game
Entered by: Wilman
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Government / Politics
Chinese term or phrase: 公开博弈
如果不同部门互为鷸蚌,公开辩论,公开博弈,身为"渔翁"的公众必会获益匪浅
博弈 is to play chess game and I understand what it refers to here but I just can't find a term that fits well. Thanks.
Wilman
United States
Local time: 05:00
要看您怎么处理。英文就是game。后面的渔翁得利,有一个拉丁文对应
Explanation:
tertius gaudens,作名词用。以下摘自OED:

1892 tr. Bismarck in Ann. Reg. 1891 284, I should like to interfere in such cases, like a parish beadle bringing peace, and prove that the tertius gaudens is the worst enemy. 1933 G. Arthur Septuagenarian's Scrap Bk. 39 Having ascertained from M. Bompard+that France would flatly refuse+to be a tertius gaudens with Germany and Russia. 1957 R. K. Merton Social Theory (rev. ed.) ii. ix. 376 The occupant of the status+can become cast in the role of the tertius gaudens. 1974 ‘M. Innes’ Mysterious Commission xix. 170 He saw himself as a kind of third force—or even as what the learned would call a tertius gaudens, meaning a chap who nips in and does both contending sides down. 1980 D. Newsome On Edge of Paradise v. 160 It would be better for them both to withdraw to allow the election of a tertius gaudens.

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My tentative venture:
With different departments/divisions competing and debating against/with each other in a fair and open environment for the gaming rules, the general public/masses will benefit most as a form of tertius gaudens.

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Oops. benefit most FROM...

Also the definition for 'teritus gaudens' in OED: A third party benefiting by the conflict or estrangement of two others.

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If the rules of a fair game are followed and different departments are able to compete and debate with each other, a tertius gaudens can be expected to benefit the masses most.

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Compliance with the fair rules of game theory will enable different departments to compete and debate in the open, resulting in a tertius gaudens to benefit the masses most.
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Last Hermit
China
Local time: 18:00
Grading comment
Thank you as always.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2open game
Clark An
5 +2要看您怎么处理。英文就是game。后面的渔翁得利,有一个拉丁文对应
Last Hermit
4 +2open competitionWill Wong
3 +1openly winning a game of chessShilpi Jain


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
open competition


Explanation:
open competition - my suggestion

Will Wong
United States
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 4

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agree  xxxanastasia t: or openly battle against each other
5 hrs

agree  IC --
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
openly winning a game of chess


Explanation:
Just a suggestion

Shilpi Jain
India
Local time: 15:30
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

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agree  IC --
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51 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
要看您怎么处理。英文就是game。后面的渔翁得利,有一个拉丁文对应


Explanation:
tertius gaudens,作名词用。以下摘自OED:

1892 tr. Bismarck in Ann. Reg. 1891 284, I should like to interfere in such cases, like a parish beadle bringing peace, and prove that the tertius gaudens is the worst enemy. 1933 G. Arthur Septuagenarian's Scrap Bk. 39 Having ascertained from M. Bompard+that France would flatly refuse+to be a tertius gaudens with Germany and Russia. 1957 R. K. Merton Social Theory (rev. ed.) ii. ix. 376 The occupant of the status+can become cast in the role of the tertius gaudens. 1974 ‘M. Innes’ Mysterious Commission xix. 170 He saw himself as a kind of third force—or even as what the learned would call a tertius gaudens, meaning a chap who nips in and does both contending sides down. 1980 D. Newsome On Edge of Paradise v. 160 It would be better for them both to withdraw to allow the election of a tertius gaudens.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2006-03-01 08:45:09 GMT)
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My tentative venture:
With different departments/divisions competing and debating against/with each other in a fair and open environment for the gaming rules, the general public/masses will benefit most as a form of tertius gaudens.

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Note added at 13 hrs (2006-03-01 16:09:04 GMT)
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Oops. benefit most FROM...

Also the definition for 'teritus gaudens' in OED: A third party benefiting by the conflict or estrangement of two others.

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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-03-01 16:17:34 GMT)
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If the rules of a fair game are followed and different departments are able to compete and debate with each other, a tertius gaudens can be expected to benefit the masses most.

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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-03-01 16:28:50 GMT)
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Compliance with the fair rules of game theory will enable different departments to compete and debate in the open, resulting in a tertius gaudens to benefit the masses most.

Last Hermit
China
Local time: 18:00
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thank you as always.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Clark An: 又学到新东西了:)tks!
9 hrs
  -> 别客气。俺也是从FYI在汉英一个贴子里面偷来的。

agree  Naikei Wong: game
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
open game


Explanation:
When it comes to "博弈",there's only one term "Game" from ecnomic theories as one of the result of the popularization of economics.Also ,Game can be called 对策 but not very common.
And as you mentioned above,Game is the very term to express your mean,such as 'action', 'reaction', 'wit' and 'strategy'.It does just like playing chess,but there's no 下棋's businese.

So ,here's my try:

Departments play the two dogs fight a bone through public debates and open games,and the public will run aways with it.

I translated this with a little inspiration from the saying:
two dogs fight for a bone, and a third runs aways with it.for the most people can understand it.

You can find public debate=公开辩论 in:

http://news.com.com/GPL3 first public draft due early 2006/2...

http://www.cnetnews.com.cn/news/softwares/story/0,3800055189...

And Game theory and Games in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory

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I majored in Economics.And now, you can give me point.*^_^*

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poins.That's all right!

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Oops! I mean "POINTS".It's OK now.OK!Checked.*^_^*

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Oops! I mean "POINTS".It's OK now.OK!Checked.*^_^*

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Sorry!I lost a word,too tired today.

It Should be:

Departments play the two dogs fight FOR a bone through public debates and open games,and the public will run aways with it.


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Note added at 12 hrs (2006-03-01 14:40:38 GMT)
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Sorry!I lost a word,too tired today.

It Should be:

Departments play the two dogs fight FOR a bone through public debates and open games,and the public will run aways with it.


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one of the resultS of the popularization !

Clark An
China
Local time: 18:00
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Naikei Wong: I agree. This word can be translated as simply "Game". See the Wikipedia entry for "game theory"...
52 mins
  -> Well,that's it!Visit www.nobel.se you can learn more.

agree  Ritchest
1 day5 hrs
  -> Glad to see you!
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