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求和派

English translation: Dove/pro-pacific wing


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Chinese term or phrase:求和派
English translation:Dove/pro-pacific wing
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Chinese to English translations [PRO]
Government / Politics / Palestine
Chinese term or phrase: 求和派
巴方内部以法塔赫为主的温和派,和求和派
Denyce Seow
Singapore
Local time: 10:37
Dove/pro-pacific wing
Explanation:
As it is not about a name of a political party, I use wing (as in the left/right wings) for the 派 (group of people having same political tendency).
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IC --
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Local time: 03:37
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4Dove/pro-pacific wingIC --
3 +4doves / pacifists
Naikei Wong
5 +2“求和”的“求”字,多少带有贬义成份,“求和派”其实就是“绥靖派”
Last Hermit
5 +1peace negotiators; peace activists
Kevin Yang
5 +1Peace Seekers
Bill Lao


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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Dove/pro-pacific wing


Explanation:
As it is not about a name of a political party, I use wing (as in the left/right wings) for the 派 (group of people having same political tendency).

IC --
France
Local time: 03:37
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Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 16
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agree  Naikei Wong
4 mins
  -> Thanks!! Pizza tonight!! You have been staying up lately...take care!!

agree  Chinoise: Tu es si travailleuse!
24 mins
  -> Merci!!

agree  Ray Luo
1 hr
  -> Thanks!!

agree  Angus Woo: Pro-pacific wing, well done. or camp, fraternity. But I like wing.
6 hrs
  -> Thank you!!!
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
doves / pacifists


Explanation:
in the general sense...

opposite of doves is hawks...

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FYI:

From dictionary sources:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/doves
dove 1 (dv)
n.
1. Any of various widely distributed birds of the family Columbidae, which includes the pigeons, having a small head and a characteristic cooing call.
2. A gentle, innocent person.
3. A person who advocates peace, conciliation, or negotiation in preference to confrontation or armed conflict.

pac·i·fism (ps-fzm)
n.
1. The belief that disputes between nations should and can be settled peacefully.
2.
a. Opposition to war or violence as a means of resolving disputes.
b. Such opposition demonstrated by refusal to participate in military action.


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April 20th ProtestWhen the marches met up, the Palestinian march engulfed everyone else - pacifist, anti-war, anti-globalization groups alike. We were engulfed in a throng of ...
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a "pacifist faction" is closer to "求和派"

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Beware the Neocons... who vigorously opposed the President’s stand on a future Palestinian state, as ... This is surely not enough evidence for the suicidal, pacifist faction. ...
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Radio Havana Cuba-05 March 2002 Via NY Transfer News * All the ...*ISRAEL OPPOSITION LEADER: PALESTINIAN DRIVE FOR INDEPENDENCE CAN'T BE ... The leader of the Israeli Parliament's Meretz pacifist faction insisted that the ...
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Note added at 17 mins (2006-03-20 18:47:20 GMT)
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another one is anti-war faction, but I think "pacifists / pacifist faction" is sufficient, in general...

Naikei Wong
Hong Kong
Local time: 10:37
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ChineseChinese
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  IC --
10 mins
  -> thanks! -- time for bed here! Enjoy cooking and dinner in France!!

agree  Chinoise: Tu es si travailleur!
34 mins
  -> thanks Chinoise

agree  Xiaoping Fu
5 hrs
  -> thank you Mr. veteran!!

neutral  Bill Lao: see my explanation below
6 hrs
  -> thanks - my concern in translation is more like getting the most obvious cognate terms in English... no other terms can beat doves and pacifists in general usages (at least in political science/ int'l relations). cheers

agree  Wilman
1 day4 mins
  -> thanks again!
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
peace negotiators; peace activists


Explanation:
Here are my suggestions:

the peace negotiators/peace activists = 求和派
hard-liner = 强硬派
the Moderates = 温和派
the dove = 鸽派
the hawk = 鹰派

Kevin Yang
United States
Local time: 18:37
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Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  IC --: peace activists
11 mins
  -> "peace activist" 的缺点是有点群众运动的意思,而peace negotiator就有决策者的意味。

agree  Yi Yuan: peace activists
4 hrs
  -> 谢谢!请看我上面的答复。

disagree  Bill Lao: 和平主义者或和平运动者与求和者还是有区别的,求和是sue for peace。kevin,peace maker是和事佬!呵呵
4 hrs
  -> 谢谢!你可以在Google上把每种建议比较一下。还有一个可以考虑的翻译是peace maker。

neutral  Last Hermit: 杩欓噷鐨勨
7 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Peace Seekers


Explanation:
No doubt, Peace Seekers!

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我感到震惊!诸位都是经验丰富,多年留洋居住留学经历的老翻译,而且很多都是从事公共英语专业或社会人文科学翻译的!doves 是鸽派, pacifists 是和平主义者,peace negotiators 是和平谈判代表,pro-pacific wing 是党团中的某一观点派别!也许温和派用doves较合适。

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我感到震惊!诸位都是经验丰富,多年留洋居住留学经历的老翻译,而且很多都是从事公共英语专业或社会人文科学翻译的!doves 是鸽派, pacifists 是和平主义者,peace negotiators 是和平谈判代表,pro-pacific wing 是党团中的某一观点派别!也许温和派用doves较合适。

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照我的理解,pacifist是“someone opposed to violence as a means of settling disputes”,即以反对暴力作为解决争端的手段的人,只要反对使用暴力解决争端,那么他就是和平主义者了。而“求和者”是某一争端发生了,向对方请求停止争端,求得和解、实现和平的人,比如通过求同存异(seek common points while reserving difference)的方法获得和平等等。

Bill Lao
China
Local time: 10:37
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ritchest: Arafat was a bona fide Palestinian nationalist and true seeker of peace with Israel. ... Arafat's flaws emerged very early in his leadership of the Fatah movement (the main organization of the Palestine Liberation ...
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
“求和”的“求”字,多少带有贬义成份,“求和派”其实就是“绥靖派”


Explanation:
  绥靖,英文当是“appeasement”,那么,“求和派”应作译作“pro-appeasement”。但通常说“peace mongers”,与“war mongers”相对。“-monger”本身就带贬义,比如“rumour-mongers”即为“专事散布流言之徒”。

  可是,在“巴方内部以法塔赫为主的温和派,和求和派”这个语境里,恐怕上述译法都不妥。这里,应译作“peace seekers”

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  这里还有一个语境不能忽示。作者是谁?如果作者倾向于主战派,希望巴方以暴易暴,那这个“求和派”就可能是“peace mongers”。语气带蔑视成份。

Last Hermit
China
Local time: 10:37
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bill Lao
1 hr

agree  Xiaoping Fu: 语境很重要。
5 hrs
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