00:05 Dec 31, 2011 

No, pokojne si ten pas so sebou zoberte, ale skutocne vam v ramci Schenghenu staci obciansky. Vlastne je dost nepravdepodobne, ze vas vobec niekto bude kontrolovat.

PF 2012 všetkým.

00:00 Dec 31, 2011 

To sa tu ale rozputala pekna diskusia:-)

20:38 Dec 30, 2011 

nieco som zameskala?! Ved sme v jednej unii kde sa cestuje bez pasov staci len OP.

20:12 Dec 30, 2011 

Presne tak. Šťastný nový rok. Niekedy tie najjednoduchšie otázky vedú k tej najzaujímavejšej diskusii.

20:09 Dec 30, 2011 

No na to že se z Prahy do Vysokych Tater musí na pas je to tu opravdu mírumilovné.

P.F. 2012

20:05 Dec 30, 2011 

nato som uz poukazala a to nemam nos vo hviezdach. Aj na tu studentku.
Vsetko najlepsie v roku 2012. Vela stastia a este viac mierumilovnych nazorov. Ved sme len dobrovolnici za 4 alebo menej bodov. Maria.

19:49 Dec 30, 2011 

...viac ako pravdepodobné (alebo totálny výmysel o študentke angličtiny na univerzite). Snažili sme sa ale pomôcť a 'pokecali' sme o tom. :~)

19:41 Dec 30, 2011 

Doufám tedy, že to je jen ledabyle opsaná věta (ta česká), nebot v univerzitním textu by tohle bylo dost neobvyklé ...a to nemyslím ve zlém...

19:32 Dec 30, 2011 

To máš pravdu, Hannah. (Aspoň v slovenčine by to tak bolo.)

19:31 Dec 30, 2011 

No dohadujeme se zde o té či oné angličtině, ale že ta česká věta je špatně nebot v ní chybí čárka a v zásadě taky otazník je pouze můj názor?

19:26 Dec 30, 2011 

Tak už se konečně dohodněte, ano!!??

19:20 Dec 30, 2011 

Literally not. I used this way to express urging nature (my feeling) of "ano" in the Czech sentence. Am I sure that this is the way that would have been used by an English native-speaker? Definitely not. Only my best guess, nothing more.

19:17 Dec 30, 2011 

debata, podla mna z vyroku sa neda usudit o co vlastne ide. Chyba nam ! alebo ? a vsetko ostatne je len domyslanie ci je to jemna anglictina, stroha cestina/slovencina, a ci tam chyba "konecne".
Zahadou je studentka anglictiny na/v univerzite.

17:42 Dec 30, 2011 

If I was doing back translation, I would most certainly translate it as 'konečne', which is not there.

17:26 Dec 30, 2011 

I was taught that English (especially British English) is much more polite than Czech or Slovak. So, direct orders or instruction can be seen in technical documents (take the screwdriver), but not in common speech. Therefore, even the form "can you finally agree on something" is imho quite (maybe even too) harsh.

17:19 Dec 30, 2011 

My feeling is that harshness and certain impatience of the Czech sentence is expressed by the word finally. But it is only matter of personal feeling, your proposals are also fully acceptable (maybe I am too formal from the grammatical view). It's pitty that none of our English-native collaguers did submit his opinion.

17:13 Dec 30, 2011 

Just to confirm the sense and "harshness". It's my opinion that Rad is perfectly right.

16:20 Dec 30, 2011 

I was also thinking about the term "coming to terms with something" in case the argument was on a specific subject. I must admit I do agree with you, Rad, regarding the clarity and brevity

15:06 Dec 30, 2011 

It's more like "Na niečom by ste sa už mali konečne dohodnúť, nie [nemyslíte si]?"
The Czech phrase sounds [to me] more 'harsh' and I believe that "Just agree on something, will you?" is more faithful. IMO