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17:59 May 26, 2008
Dutch to English translations [PRO] Science - Botany / Soorten
Dutch term or phrase:stinsenplanten
Stins is Fries en betekent stenen huis. Stinsenplanten zijn exotische soorten die vanaf de middeleeuwen op landgoederen, bij adellijke huizen, op kerkhoven etc. zijn aangeplant en sindsdien zijn ingeburgerd.
Is er een goed Engels equivalent voor of dient deze term in het Engels omschreven te worden?
Explanation: Normally such plants would be called exotics in England
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-5066549/quot-Hothous...
Dixon's claims seem particularly applicable to a reading of the nineteenth-century garden, since the period contained such dramatic shifts in the social and cultural landscape, and since gardens demonstrated technological and industrial innovation at the same time as they evoked a nostalgic desire for an English past. Of the Victorian garden, Joan Morgan and Alison Richards have claimed that "environments were contrived which imitated as closely as possible those of the native homeland, and Nature was permitted to enhance the effect. Exotics such as rhododendrons could be allowed to self seed in the woodland glades and narcissi and snowdrops to multiply among the wild primroses. [...] The distinctive style of Victorian gardens was, therefore, both formal and eclectic. They were to borrow promiscuously from the English past and from an exotic present"
@Lianne: volgens mij is het importaspect wel essentieel voor een juiste interpretatie en vertaling van 'stinsen' oftewel 'stinsenflora'. Zie bijv. de volgende beschrijving:
Stinsenflora
Thans in het wild groeiende planten en bloemen die ooit zijn aangevoerd, vaak te vinden in de buurt van een buitenplaats
Gevonden op http://www.geocities.com/capitolHill/Sen
Is de import essentieel (in de tekst)? Volgens van Dale "stinsenvegetatie" = kenmerkende vegetatie voor de ondergroei van oude parkbossen
van buitenplaatsen.... Ik denk vooral ook gewoon aan inheemse mossen, klimop, en kruipers (= langs de grond)....
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exotics
Explanation: Normally such plants would be called exotics in England
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-5066549/quot-Hothous...
Dixon's claims seem particularly applicable to a reading of the nineteenth-century garden, since the period contained such dramatic shifts in the social and cultural landscape, and since gardens demonstrated technological and industrial innovation at the same time as they evoked a nostalgic desire for an English past. Of the Victorian garden, Joan Morgan and Alison Richards have claimed that "environments were contrived which imitated as closely as possible those of the native homeland, and Nature was permitted to enhance the effect. Exotics such as rhododendrons could be allowed to self seed in the woodland glades and narcissi and snowdrops to multiply among the wild primroses. [...] The distinctive style of Victorian gardens was, therefore, both formal and eclectic. They were to borrow promiscuously from the English past and from an exotic present"
Kate Hudson Netherlands Local time: 20:23 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 11
Explanation: Volgens mij is er geen directe vertaling mogelijk van de specifiek Nederlandse term 'stinsenplanten' als zodanig.
Wel kan het meer algemene verschijnsel waarnaar deze term verwijst vertaald worden. Bijv. met 'introduced non-native plants' of 'introduced and escaped non-native plants'. Evt. ook 'invasive non-native plants' maar dit heeft wel een negatievere bijklank (i.v.m. bedreiging van het oorspronkelijke ecosysteem).
Ik zou de term 'stinsenplanten' onvertaald laten met deze (of een nog betere!) Engelse vertaling tussen haakjes toegevoegd.
Introduced plants include those which were planted originally and now have spread (e.g., ... Table 3. Summary of non-native taxa* by status in Wisconsin. ... www.botany.wisc.edu/wisflora/Composition.asp
Non-native species (aliens) are not native to an area, but rather were introduced by humans, either intentionally or accidentally. These introductions can be very dangerous to natural occurring plant communities because the non-native plants can negatively modify the habitat and thus decrease the survival of native species. In many ways they out-compete the native species because they lack natural inhibitors (such as disease or predators). While many alien species of plants do not make changes to the natural environment or are not able to survive outside of cultivation, many non-native plant species are problematic because they can become invasive.
Escaped species are those that were purposely introduced to an area for agriculture, ornamental gardening, or for land stabilization (i.e. along steep slopes, riverbanks, or floodplains), but spread beyond cultivation by reproducing on their own. Many times these plants are only localized to disturbed areas and cannot penetrate native habitats. However, many aggressive alien plants that are now invasive were first introduced and later escaped. www.vplants.org/topics/origin2.html
Kitty Brussaard Netherlands Local time: 20:23 Native speaker of: Dutch
WIKIPEDIA:
A cultivar is a cultivated plant that has been selected and given a unique name because it has desirable characteristics (decorative or useful) that distinguish it from otherwise similar plants of the same species. When propagated it retains those characteristics.
A cultivar is a particular variety of a plant species or hybrid that is being cultivated and/or is recognised as a cultivar under the ICNCP. The concept of cultivar is driven by pragmatism, and serves the practical needs of horticulture, agriculture, forestry, etc.
The word cultivar, coined by Liberty Hyde Bailey, is generally regarded as a portmanteau of "cultivated" and "variety", but could also be derived from "cultigen" "variety".
Naturalized cultivar
Some cultivars are "naturalized" in gardening, in other words they are planted out and largely left to their own devices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivar
Definition: Cultivars are propagated not from seed, but rather vegetatively (e.g., via stem cuttings). When the full scientific name for a particular plant cultivar is given, the part of the name that indicates the cultivar itself follows the genus name and the species name and is set off by single quotation marks. By referring to cultivars in this way, we're able to be more specific about a plant than if we restricted ourselves to noting its genus and species. http://landscaping.about.com/od/helpforbeginners/g/cultivar....
Max Nuijens, MSc Russian Federation Local time: 22:23 Works in field Native speaker of: Dutch PRO pts in category: 4
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