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kosten moeten uit de breedte danwel uit de lengte komen

English translation: the/our costs need to be covered somehow

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Dutch term or phrase:	kosten moeten uit de breedte danwel uit de lengte komen
English translation:	the/our costs need to be covered somehow
Entered by:	Casey Dovale

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19:37 Sep 5, 2010

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Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / manufacturing of electronics

Dutch term or phrase: kosten moeten uit de breedte danwel uit de lengte komen

Dus verwachten wij wel een andere benadering van wat marktconform is. Tenslotte zullen de kosten uit de breedte danwel uit de lengte moeten komen. Dit blijkt ook wel uit de andere benadering van grote opdrachtgevers ten aanzien van hun leveranciers.

Casey Dovale KudoZ activity Questions: 16 (none open) (1 without valid answers) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 61
Local time: 08:51

the/our costs need to be covered somehow

Explanation:
After all the/our costs need to be covered somehow

there is still a possibility that "lengte" and "breedte" have some specific meaning, but my suggestion is based on the assumption they have not
so if my assumption is right, then "de kosten moeten uit de lengte of de breedte komen" means that "de kosten OP DE EEN OF ANDERE MANIER gedekt moeten worden"

uit de lengte danwel uit de breedte = op de een of andere manier

I think "zullen moeten komen" means "need to be covered"

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Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 08:51

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Thanks Barend!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +4

must come from somewhere

Chris Hopley

3 +3

the/our costs need to be covered somehow

Barend van Zadelhoff

costs of sales must come from the cross bars (of the spread sheet

Verginia Ophof

Discussion entries: 1

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41 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

moet uit de lengte of uit de breedte komen must come from somewhere

Explanation:
This is just a general expression meaning "it's got to come from somwhere". See this typical example plucked from the web:

-> "In een tijd, waarin voor velen de problemen groot zijn, de armoede toeneemt en het aantal aanvragen voor schuldhulpverlening fors groeit, is het zaak om het voorzieningenniveau overeind te houden. Dat is een hele opgave, want het moet uit de lengte of uit de breedte komen. Wij kunnen geen geld bijdrukken en ook niet werken met een financieringstekort. Dus zullen er pijnlijke keuzes nodig zijn."
http://kleinpaste.web-log.nl/kleinpaste/2009/11/het-komt-uit...

Compare that with this:
-> " Because the excess has already been trimmed, it's becoming difficult to find more spending cuts.

"Things we would not choose to cut in other times, we are nonetheless forced to cut as we choose from among options, all of which are painful and all of which to one degree or another affect our core mission," said O'Malley, during a recent Board of Public Works meeting.

But reductions must come from somewhere."
http://www.newsline.umd.edu/business/specialreports/recessio...

Chris Hopley
Netherlands
Local time: 08:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 87

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Frank van Thienen

1 hr

agree

Kitty Brussaard: Also listed in Van Dale under 'lengte' (first entry)

1 hr

agree

Johan Venter: (figuurlijk) het moet uit de lengte of uit de breedte komen it has to come from somewhere / to be found / be managed somehow (the Van Dale entry Kitty referred to)

9 hrs

neutral

Ron Willems: yes, but only if we assume that by 'kosten' they actually mean 'kostenbesparingen'... the Dutch sentence is a bit weird imo; that's why I'd prefer Barend's suggestion

10 hrs

-> I actually agree about the source sentence - my translation refers to the stock phrase; I can't help that it's used badly ;-)

agree

Tina Vonhof

19 hrs

neutral

Barend van Zadelhoff: "our costs must come from somewhere" doesn't makes sense to me / sorry, I wanted to react to Tina's comment but did so in the wrong box

20 hrs

-> I agree, but see my comment to Ron above

47 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

the/our costs need to be covered somehow

Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 08:51
Native speaker of:

Dutch
PRO pts in category: 12

Grading comment

Thanks Barend!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Ron Willems: yes, this seems the most plausible explanation.

10 hrs

-> Dank je wel, Ron. Ja, ik vraag me af hoe Chris zijn suggestie logisch gezien rond wil krijgen, anders zou ik het graag met hem eens zijn.

agree

Tina Vonhof: But I don't see the difference with Chris' suggestion.

19 hrs

-> "our costs must come from somewhere" doesn't make sense to me; just to be clear, we arrived at our solutions independently

agree

Chris Hopley: Hoi Barend, met mijn vertaling heb ik niet de ambitite om de zin "rond te krijgen". Ik heb me alleen beziggehouden met de standaarduitdrukking. Casey mag de rest zelf invullen :-) //Daar heb je volkomen gelijk in!

21 hrs

-> Hallo Chris, dank je wel, dan is dat in ieder geval duidelijk. Ikzelf probeer altijd met een contextuele vertaling te komen (en ik denk jij ook meestal), omdat daar nu eenmaal vaak de schoen wringt :-)

48 mins confidence:

costs of sales must come from the cross bars (of the spread sheet

Explanation:
P&L spread sheets/statements

We are constantly comparing the actual numbers with our projections. Doing this over a report of even 10 lines requires row by row number comparison, and is not something which can be easily & quickly scanned. Differential formulae and conditional formatting can help to a degree, but it’s still not ideal. Enter the Bullet graphs, invented by Stephen Few. It’s a compact, data rich and efficient alternative to space hungry gauges. Bullet graphs can be vertical or horizontal, but are often of most benefit when used horizontally, on a row basis to clearly display performance against target.

Verginia Ophof
Belize
Local time: 00:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 14

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