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English translation: dinner debate

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Dutch term or phrase:	"diner pensant"
English translation:	dinner debate
Entered by:	Chris Hopley

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12:39 Dec 3, 2004

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Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / business meeting

Dutch term or phrase: "diner pensant"

It looks like a French term, but a Google search reveals almost exclusively Dutch websites (as well as the odd Dunglish one). As the word suggests, it is a dinner where the guests are invited to discuss and exchange ideas on a given topic. Who can help me find an acceptable English translation for this?

Chris Hopley KudoZ activity Questions: 186 (2 open) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 2143 Netherlands
Local time: 12:26

conference dinner

Explanation:
You could place the topic in front, ie. Management conference dinner, Innovative Ideas conference dinner, etc. etc.

Selected response from:

Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
Local time: 12:26

Grading comment

Hi Siobhan, thanks for this. In the end, I went for 'dinner debate'. You get the points because when I read 'place the topic in front', I thought: why not place 'dinner' in front! So yours was the 'most helpful answer'!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +7

working dinner

Wolter Jetten

3 +4

brainstorming dinner

Paul Peeraerts

2 +5

Round table dinner

writeaway

4 +2

discussion dinner

Joost Simons

3 +2

conference dinner

Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly

informational dinner

Allison Klein

3 -1

mental meal

Willemina Hagenauw

topical dinner

Klaus Hartmann

Answers

9 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

Round table dinner

Explanation:
just a suggestion. imho, round table covers the aspects of exchange of ideas and discussion. plus is not really an invented term.

Hyperion : Executive Round Table Dinner
Nirvana Executive Round Table Dinner, ... Hyperion moderators will lead Round Table discussions while an superb 4-course dinner is served. ...
www.hyperion.com/nirvana/ nl_nirvana_roundtable_dinner.cfm

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[PDF] Dr. Peter Witterauf, Key Note Speech at Dinner Round Table EU ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Page 1. 1 Dr. Peter Witterauf, Key Note Speech at Dinner Round Table Managing Director, Hanns-Seidel-Foundation, Munich, Germany (October 20 th , 2004) ...
www.hss.de/downloads/1bASEAN-Bruessel-Rede-HGF.PDF

European Neutron-Muon Portal
... Thursday 11 May 2000 ENSA meeting followed by joint ENSA - EU round-table dinner Friday 12 May 2000 9:00 - 10:30 Joint ENSA and EU Round-table Session - News ...
neutron.neutron-eu.net/n_nmi3/ n_round_table_-_fp5/n_agendas_and_minutes/224 -

A Carfax Publishing Title: The Round Table - Hodson Memorial Prize
... country in which The Round Table holds activities, it is hoped that the prizewinner may be invited to take part (eg by attending a Round Table dinner). ...
www.tandf.co.uk/journals/authors/ctrt_hodson.html

writeaway
Local time: 12:26
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 56

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

seaMount

20 mins

agree

sylvie malich: I like it

1 hr

agree

Ken Cox: if it's a relatively formal event

1 hr

-> well, Chris talks about guests, not employees so I assume it's not necessarily people working on a given project together-more of an exchange of ideas.

agree

xxxdf49f

2 hrs

agree

Sevan

4 hrs

neutral

Tina Vonhof: It's a nice suggestion but if I were invited to one, I would think it was a dinner where people sit at round tables, i.e. for meeting people and networking.

5 hrs

-> have you seen my refs? a working dinner is usually just that-working on a project, not just discussing ideas.there are guests mentioned, not employees. I think it's a serious exchange of ideas, but not necessarily for a particular project.

neutral

Fred ten Berge: Not too much related to the Round Table organization?

13 hrs

19 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +7

diner pensant working dinner

Explanation:
We also call this a "werkdiner" in Dutch.

Wolter Jetten
Local time: 12:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Dutch

32 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

diner pensant brainstorming dinner

Explanation:
Also "brainstorming dinner meeting", "brainstorming dinner gathering".

Paul Peeraerts
Local time: 12:26
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Dutch
PRO pts in category: 11

40 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

discussion dinner

Explanation:
Another suggestion. Quite a lot of references to it on the internet, too. I like the suggested term 'round table dinner' as well, it's an elegant translation, but I'm not quite sure if you can rely on the average reader to know what is meant by it.

Joost Simons
Local time: 12:26
Native speaker of:

Dutch

43 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

diner pensant mental meal

Explanation:
If you wanted something slightly more different... a bit more jokey!

Just a suggestion

Willemina Hagenauw
Local time: 11:26
Native speaker of:

Dutch
PRO pts in category: 13

2 hrs confidence:

diner pensant topical dinner

Explanation:
Just a guess. Some good Google hits, IMO.

Link: "At each dinner meeting we offer a topical dinner speaker, whose topics often will address purchasing and materials management subjects, as well as ample ..."

"Alumni - If you are willing to share your experiences in public service with students by
participating in a class, panel discussion, topical dinner, or Homecoming alumni forum,
please contact Dr. David Marion at damarion@hsc.edu, or call (434)223-6240"

www.napmoc.org/membership/meminfo.html - 8k
Reference: http://www.hsc.edu/wilsoncenter/alumni/

Klaus Hartmann
Local time: 12:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German

20 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

diner pensant

conference dinner

Explanation:
You could place the topic in front, ie. Management conference dinner, Innovative Ideas conference dinner, etc. etc.

Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
Local time: 12:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 27

Grading comment

1 day3 hrs confidence:

diner pensant informational dinner

Explanation:
another option - there are informational meetings, seminars, etc. and from what I've seen of this term and its use, this appears to be what it is - the exchange of information.
Plenty of references using this term:
... Is the holding of an informational dinner for minority students proper? ... 3. Is the
holding of an informational dinner for minority students proper? ...
www.naceweb.org/principles/resources/case9.htm - 15k
... Burlington, Massachusetts Please join us for an informational dinner, where many
interesting topics will ... Page 3. 3 COFAR INFORMATIONAL DINNER REGISTRATION FORM ...
www.cofar-mass.org/files/dinner_invitation.pdf -
... Full use of a personal 17' whaler-styled boat. Informational dinner held in Ballard
Washington. ... PSFF WILL cover food expenses for the informational dinner. ...
www.pugetsoundflyfishing.com/Posts/WeighWest2004.htm - 16k
... our video presentation on the website soon. Informational Dinner a Sucess!
posted by Dan on 27 Jun 2004 Saturday evening we held ...
www.youthmanagedcafe.org/index.php?start_ from=5&ucat=&archive=&subaction=&id=& - 14k - 2 dec 2004
... This will be an informational dinner also and we will have a guest there to answer
questions about the Bounce 4v4 Tournament. When: Wednesday, November 17th. ...
www.eastorangesoccer.com/coach_dinner.html - 24k

Allison Klein
Netherlands
Local time: 12:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English

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