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English translation: bit part

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Dutch term or phrase:	edelfiguratie
English translation:	bit part
Entered by:	Frank van Thienen

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21:50 Jan 19, 2009

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Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama

Dutch term or phrase: edelfiguratie

De term slaat op casting, maar wat specifiek, begrijp ik niet.
Dit komt voor in een script (interpretatie) voor een film:
"Voor de meeste rolletje in de verschillende filmpjes kunnen we in Nederland of België de edelfiguratie wel vinden"

Frank van Thienen KudoZ activity Questions: 10 (none open) Answers: 140 Canada
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bit part

Explanation:
Het is inderdaad een kleine rol: handeling, dan wel regel(s) tekst. Iets meer dan enkel figureren, ofwel in beeld verschijnen.

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Although I myself would prefer to say I was an 'edelfigurant' (nice word!) than that I had a bit part, I think you do have to make a distinction from just being an extra, which would be 'figurant'. Walk-on seems to be somewhat the same as bit part, but for some reason I associate it more with the theatre. In the sentence given you could certainly go with 'actors for the supporting roles'.

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dj raats
Local time: 12:30

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Iedereen van harte bedankt voor het meedenken!
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bit part

dj raats

extras

Bruce Gordon

3 -1

cameo part

Jennifer Barnett

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edelfiguratie

Kitty Brussaard

Discussion entries: 2

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cameo part

Explanation:
Not very sure about this term, but I would go with the 'cameo' version as 'edel' indicates a higher value. A cameo part or appearance is usually taken by a famous actor or personality (sometimes playing themselves) who appears very briefly but long enough enough to be recognised by the viewers.

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameo_appearance

Jennifer Barnett
France
Local time: 12:30
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English
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extras

Explanation:
Although I agreed with 'bit part', this seems a bit more neutral and less derogatory, somehow.

Bruce Gordon
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:30
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English

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

bit part

dj raats
Local time: 12:30
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Iedereen van harte bedankt voor het meedenken!

Notes to answerer

Asker: Bedankt, DJ. Dit lijkt me inderdaad de juiste vertaling. Cameo slaat op een beroemd personage, en "extra" is een figurant zonder zinnetjes of acties. Thanks!

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13 mins peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: edelfiguratie

Reference information:
Hierbij een toelichting op het onderscheid tussen 'figuratie' en 'edelfiguratie'. Bij 'edelfiguratie' is er blijkbaar sprake van het verrichten van een handeling (verbaal of fysiek) door de (edel)figurant.

Edelfiguratie is iets meer dan figuratie. Hier wordt een handeling gepleegd, soms een regel tekst gezegd. Een handeling kan zijn: iets uit een lade pakken terwijl je in een shot met de acteurs bent. Het kan zijn dat je langsloopt en de acteur goeie dag zegt terwijl je beiden in beeld bent of langs fietsen in een drukke straat.
http://www.commercialcasting.nl/disclaimer.htm

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Walk On
A step up from a supporting artiste, someone the viewer is more likely to identify as an individual, who may have a few words to say.
http://www.castingcollective.co.uk/artistes-area/guide/termi...

Kitty Brussaard
Netherlands
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Dutch

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