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17:39 Oct 4, 2007

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Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Computers: Software / marketing flyer

Dutch term or phrase: ontbreekt het uw databasebeheerder soms aan kennis?

I am having trouble with this term as I find writing something like the DB manager is lacking knowledge is rather derogatory towards the person concerned. If anyone can think of a politer way of putting it, I'd be most grateful!

Justine Fischbach KudoZ activity Questions: 125 (none open) (11 closed without grading) Answers: 30
Local time: 11:31

Summary of answers provided

3 +4

Can your DB administrator walk on water?

Ken Cox

4 +1

Is your database manager not up to scratch?

xxxjarry

Database management, to be effective, has to be up to date!

L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen

3 +1

Database management requires excellent knowledge and skills

Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly

Can your database administrator keep up?

vixen

4 -1

Are your DB administrator's skills sometimes stretched beyond the limit?

telraam

Do you feel your DB admin does not always meet your needs?

Margreet Logmans

3 -1

Need to replace your database adminstrator?

Buck

Maybe your database administrator could use some additional knowledge?

Henk Peelen

Discussion entries: 4

Answers

38 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Are your DB administrator's skills sometimes stretched beyond the limit?

Explanation:
It is still not very polite to the DB administrator - but it may help.

telraam
Local time: 12:31
Native speaker of:

English

Notes to answerer

Asker:

Asker: thx Jonathan, I'm still working on it. Do you (and anyone else reading this) think the Dutch also comes across as rude?

58 mins confidence:

Do you feel your DB admin does not always meet your needs?

Explanation:
Or something like this - live up to expectations, fulfill. I'm just trying to give you an idea here. This really is a 'native speaker' thing, I trust you'll come up with something good.

Margreet Logmans
Netherlands
Local time: 12:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: Dutch

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Database management requires excellent knowledge and skills

Explanation:
Why not leave it up to the reader (potential customer) to ask themselves whether or not their DB manager/administrator satisfy their database requirements. Surely the object of the text is to promote the service offered by the company and not to undermine the ability of (any) DB manager(s).

Siobhan Schoonhoff-Reilly
Local time: 12:31
Native speaker of:

English

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Is your database manager not up to scratch?

Explanation:
Meaning:
If something doesn't come up to scratch, it doesn't meet the standard required or expected.

xxxjarry
South Africa
Local time: 12:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24

55 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Need to replace your database adminstrator?

Explanation:
The possibilities are endless. It's negative advertising suggesting that "your" database needs "their" professional touch. Boring, and not at all negative in Dutch.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-10-04 19:54:51 GMT)
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This is obviously an advertising slogan.

Buck
Netherlands
Local time: 12:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

4 hrs confidence:

Maybe your database administrator could use some additional knowledge?

Explanation:
Could be conceived both very friendly and tersely, so goal-oriented, in my opinion.

Henk Peelen
Netherlands
Local time: 12:31
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Dutch
PRO pts in category: 4

15 hrs confidence:

Can your database administrator keep up?

Explanation:
This may be a little ambiguous, since it could refer to the issue of time as well as skills, but I still think it might work in the given context.

Perhaps you could also insert the word 'always' to address the use of 'soms' in the source.

vixen
Local time: 13:31
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Dutch

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

Can your DB administrator walk on water?

Explanation:
Personally, I don't see the Dutch text as rude, but instead as a good opening line to get attention, but this sort of thing is very culture-specific and a direct translation wouldn't go down well everywhere.

As you mention that the DB admin isn't mentioned anywhere else in the text, you could turn it around as per my suggestion, perhaps with a little intro to the effect of 'if he can't, we can help'.

This is PR, and rule number 1 in PR is that it has to work.

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Note added at 15 hrs (2007-10-05 09:19:52 GMT)
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Further comment: IMO the intention of the Dutch slogan is to provoke the response 'Hmmm, maybe we *could* use a bit of help'. If you simply said 'We can help you with your DB administration', the response would more likely be 'So what?' or 'We don't need any help'', and the flyer would land directly in the waste-paper basket.

Ken Cox
Local time: 12:31
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

10 hrs confidence:

Database management, to be effective, has to be up to date!

Explanation:
Date base is the crucial point.

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Note added at 2 days17 hrs (2007-10-07 10:51:03 GMT)
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Mu suggestion is based on the point that an effective "database manager" is always up to date.
The asker wanted to move away from the "person" and the I believe that the next crucial point is the base.

L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen
South Africa
Local time: 12:31
Native speaker of:

English,

Dutch

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